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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:18 PM
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Romney: poor Americans having no income tax liability is "a problem" that will "kill the country"
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 01:19 PM by TheWraith
Number 17 of 99 things you didn't know about Mitt Romney, from http://thinkprogress.org/romney-facts.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:23 PM
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1. He wants people with no income to pay income taxes?
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 01:29 PM by JaneQPublic
Only a Repug could find the sense in that.

Edited to fixt typo.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:24 PM
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2. Exactly. It's his position that we need to raise taxes on the poor. nt
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:26 PM
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5. can't squeeze blood out of a turnip
hey, romney, you and your friends have had an income tax vacation, why don't you pony up. Those "poor" people are just trying to stay alive, keep from starving or their children starving--it might cost you and your friends another vacation home.

These guys are unconscionable.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:41 PM
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18. Yes, let's put LESS money in the hands of people who have to spend ALL of their money.
All so the 1% can have even more and more tax cuts, corporate welfare and wars.

Right, because THAT'll fix things.

You bring this up to a Republican and he'll tell you the problem is "government (read: Demmycrats) waste and pork", as if those are the only things our money goes to. :eyes:
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:58 PM
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24. technically the 0% cut off is ~8k/yr. But I agree with the general point.
8k is not enough to make rent in most cases, let alone live off of.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:11 PM
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32. $8,000 a year is ~$660 per month.
Here where I live in the complete and utter boondocks, far from everything, a single bedroom apartment will probably run you around $450 a month. That would leave a person $210 a month to pay for food, electricity, clothing, anything necessary for their work, medicine, transportation, state taxes, etcetera. Let's not even talk about owning a car, having health insurance, or any sort of recreational activities ever. Much less saving for the future.

...and that's living in one of the cheapest parts of the country.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:25 PM
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3. He wants to squeeze blood out of turnip
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:26 PM
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4. We poor Americans pay sales tax and FICA, you silver-spoon ass-turd.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:30 PM
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10. most wages in this country have gone down
and many people are out of work. So, instead of getting rid of little boot's obscene tax cuts; his idea is to sock it to those who are already drowning. I just love it, can't get more stupid or greedy than that. With most corporations' profits increased to about 88% and US CEO's the highest paid in the world, we've got to squeeze that money out of the ones who are hurting.

I wouldn't vote for this guy if he bribed me with a million dollars.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:46 PM
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20. Not to mention...
All the taxes passed down to poor people: For example, when the landlords get higher property tax bills, they pass it down to the tenants.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:47 PM
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43. Mittens know this: the real problem is not large highly-profitable corporations that pay no U.S. FIT
nor billionaire hedge-fund managers who pay a 15% tax rate, nor those of Warren B's class who pay a lower income tax rate than their secretaries. No si-ree, the problem is those who do not have enough food to eat and live paycheck to paycheck who don't pay enough. You and your entire ilk are morbidly depraved, Mittens, obscenely morbidly depraved, and you wallow in and wear this depravity on your sleeves like a badge of honor. :patriot:
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:28 PM
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6. yeah but does he believe this
or just think Republican voters want to hear this. With Romney you never know what he truly thinks about anything.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:36 PM
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15. I have no idea, really. But that alone is scary enough.
Either he's so fucking crazy that he really believes not raising taxes on the poor will destroy America...

OR...

He's so cynically, ruthlessly manipulative that he'd support such a thing in order to win favor with the right-wing fringe.
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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:28 PM
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7. As another here said.
Saying we poor have no skin in the game, is faulty. That Corps pass on any and all expenses to us, makes us all the corporations tax payers by proxy. Thus, the only further skin we need in this game is marching and protesting.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:29 PM
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8. ClassWarrior: American corporations having no income tax liability is a problem that...
...will kill the country.

NGU.

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tnlurker Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:30 PM
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9. There is an easy solution to that
Have the government create some jobs with living wages for them so they will return to the rolls of taxpayers. Private industry and the "Job Creators" are not doing it. You can expand the tax base by increasing employment.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:30 PM
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11. Mittens is a terrorist-supporting, tax-dodging, thieving, elitist snob
that thinks rich people should have a license to steal from the poor with impunity. That sums up Romney in one sentence.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:33 PM
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14. He's a two-time murderer too, if "corporations are people, my friend."
:rofl:

NGU.

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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:31 PM
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12. the corporations buying our country have killed it
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 01:31 PM by reggie the dog
our left is seen as hard right in most of western europe. seriously. and W was seen as a lunatic.
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:31 PM
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13. Easy solution: support policies that will get them out of poverty and ...
in a position to pay income taxes. But I guess this Mitt can't catch that one.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:39 PM
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16. I guess
they could force the poor to donate blood, with the proceeds of the sales of the blood going to the Koch brothers, or something...

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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:06 PM
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28. You get a Brigid DUzy for this.
Only this one made me want to cry, not laugh. :(
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nineteen50 Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:40 PM
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17. The poor are so dangerous
they probable caused the economic crash.:sarcasm: :sarcasm: 
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:42 PM
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19. Does he want them to become indentured servants?
Sharecroppers? People who owe their soul to the company store? If they can't survive as it is in this society, sometimes holding down three jobs, just how does Mitt propose that they pay this extra revenue?
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:05 PM
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27. Yes.
That is EXACTLY what he wants. He and his ilk want that for all of us.
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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:51 PM
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21. Someone needs to inform Romney that
every dollar earned has 15% taken off the top for both sides of Social Security/Medicare. That is as much as dividends and capital gains for multimillionaire portfolios.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:52 PM
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22. Any of the Republicans running for
president including Romney will answer only to the Republican House. They say to him Jump and he does immediately. Any voter who doesn't understand this is a fool.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:58 PM
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23. Exactly. Want a preview of what a Republican POTUS would do?
Take a look at the manifest insanity coming out of the House of Representatives.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:00 PM
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25. Hey Mitt you twit headline my Murdoch owned rag "Relative Poverty in US now 16%".....
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:03 PM
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26. He is right, but not in the way he thinks.
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 02:03 PM by GoCubsGo
Those of us who don't make enough to pay income taxes also cannot afford health insurance or a trip to the doctor's office. I'll probably drop dead of stress-related illness before I ever again make enough to pay for medical care. And, there are millions more just like me out there. Yep. Being forced into a position were we have no tax liability WILL kill us.

Mr. Romney, go fuck yourself.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:06 PM
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29. A Romney Presidency Would Lay Bare Any Pretense of a Democracy
It will literally be a match up of the 1% vs. the 99% without any buffer whatsoever. With Obama and the Dems, there would be some sort of buffer.

With Romney and the Republicans in control, things would get raw pretty fast. OWS will seem like a picnic.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:15 PM
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35. If Romney does win (perish the thought)
Give it maybe six months to a year, no longer, and there will literally be violent rioting in the streets -- setting fires, overturning police cars, the whole bit -- by millions of desparate, impoverished people with nothing to lose. Even the riots of the '60's will pale in comparison.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:29 PM
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38. Yep.
The battle would be on.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:07 PM
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30. Willard needs a foot put so far up his ass
that he will be tasting shoe leather for a month.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:07 PM
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31. And dead people, they're not paying enough taxes either.
Lets not forget about them.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:19 PM
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36. The Repukes haven't forgotten about dead people for one minute!
According to them, rich dead people *do* pay taxes--after all, we can't forget about the "Death Tax."
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:14 PM
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33. Ya Think?


What a fucking GENIUS!

Where the hell has this guy BEEN?



So I'm sure, if hell freezes over and this Tool gets the reins, we can expect to have a minimum wage that actually pays enough to LIVE on?

And enough of a wage to pay taxes off of at the same time, after we pay for our exhorbitant housing, health care, transportation, food and education costs?

Halleluiah!!!




Wait...if this TOOL gets the nod, we can expect even fewer decent jobs (the decent part being the key, Republicans everywhere, to allow one to pay income taxes) and plenty of "manufacturing jobs" flipping burgers for $7.70 an hour 25 hours a week.

Those kind of jobs are killing us, alright.








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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:26 PM
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37. One of the other Romney facts: he vetoed a raise in the MA minimum wage... to $8 an hour.
Apparently he feels that in Massachusetts, it's too much to ask for businesses to pay their employees at least $8 an hour.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:32 PM
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39. Yet they should bear the tax burden


and not the Massholes with seven cars and six houses.

And he has no earthly idea what OWS is about. :crazy:









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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:15 PM
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34. He doesn't believe this crap - it's just a stupid wedge issue.
He's trying to play divide and conquer between the 53% and the 47%. That works with certain brain-dead Republicans, notably the Angry White Male contingent (remember them?), especially older ones, but it doesn't work with America as a whole.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:34 PM
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40. He only paid 14% on $9.6 mil - $39 mil of income for 2010.
Seems to me that he should be paying more.

These numbers were from Thom Hartmann's radio show, and they were quoting Mitt's campaign financial information release.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:12 PM
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41. mittens can GET ED. no more fucking for him!!!!
when i made the bare minimum of income I PAID INCOME TAXES. it may have ony been $13, but it MEANT MORE TO ME THAN mr MONEYBAGS, i sincerely think we need to go back to EISENHOWER TAX RATES!!!!!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:43 PM
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42. because taxing people who have no money
will save the economy ...

:silly:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:33 PM
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44. I know how we can solve that problem...
Let all the employers in America give their employees a 20% increase in pay and then tax them 10%, leaving them a 10% increase in pay and able to pay some taxes also. There... :-)
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