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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:32 PM
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Cain denys even knowing Bialek....but...
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 03:34 PM by HereSince1628
From Talkingpointsmemo.com :

Not only is Herman Cain flatly calling his accuser, Sharon Bialek, a liar, he says he doesn’t even remember her at all.

“I reject all accusations,” he said in a defiant interview with ABC/Yahoo. “I don’t remember that. And also I don’t remember knowing her.”


But Chicago Sun-Times says...

Cain accuser Sharon Bialek went back stage and gave Herman Cain a big hug at the TeaCon Convention a month ago.
The Chicago Sun-Times reported:

They hugged each other backstage in a full embrace like old friends.

She grabbed his arm and whispered in his left ear.

She kept talking as he bent to listen, and he kept saying “Uh, huh. Uh, huh.”

Huh?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/11/cain-accuser-bialek-hugged-cain-last-month-at-teacon-convention/

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Looks to me like we now have triangulation on Cain's forgetfulness/lying.



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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:35 PM
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1. I don't think it was
her name, her personality or her face he was groping.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:37 PM
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5. So for him to recognize her...are you suggesting what I think you are suggesting?
Oh, my!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:35 PM
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2. "She whispered in his LEFT ear..."
:freak:
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:35 PM
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3. Good thing she made sure everyone saw this. nt
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:36 PM
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4. If she was one of hundreds he tried to force into a blow job
maybe it's true that he doesn't remember the women as individuals.
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SomethingFishy Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:37 PM
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6. So she was hugging him a month ago?
She went up and hugged a man who sexually assaulted her? While I have no doubt Cain is a serial harasser, now I have to wonder about her story.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:39 PM
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8. Bull SHIT.
What is it with you people? HER actions don't mean HE didn't assault her.

Good god.
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SomethingFishy Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:49 PM
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10. Really? So you go up and hug someone who assaulted you?
Funny I won't even hug people I don't like let alone someone who assaulted me.

I'll say it one more time. Maybe you'll actually hear it this time.

I believe Cain is a serial harasser, however I have to go with my gut when a Tea Bagger Republican goes after one of their own for assault 4 weeks after acting all buddy buddy with him. You find nothing suspicious about that? Nothing at all?

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:43 PM
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9. Cain says he's never met her...third party says...Yes he did..
There are now enough stories to demonstrate some of that "something doesn't add up here" phenomena.

Regardless of Bialek's claims, Cain is in the awkward place of having witnesses say his statement isn't true.

Hmmm. The saying is that it's not the crime, it's the cover-up that does in politicians. And it looks rather similar to what we would expect it to look like if Cain was covering-up.

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SomethingFishy Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:52 PM
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11. Yeah and the confirmation of his lie calls into question
her integrity. At least in my mind you don't go make buddy buddy with someone you are about to accuse of sexual assault. But hey that's just me. I'm sure she had a reason for giving the "full embrace" to the person who sexually assaulted her. :shrug:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:04 PM
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14. The hugging that was witnessed is weeks old, the harassament scandel is much younger
Consequently I am not sure how anyone could attribute motives, such as 'she was about to accuse him'.

I can offer a speculative alternative scenario, with absolutely NOTHING to back it up, (which is intended to support the notion that we must keep our minds open to the possibilities of all alternative scenarios), Bialek might have been motivated to do a tell-all after Cain got high-and-mighty about NEVER having done anything that could be called sexual harrassment. IOW it's possible that she made up her mind about telling her story after Cain went into universal denial mode. But, I've got nothing to suggest that Bialek had any particular motivation.

I do have evidence from a credible publisher that Cain isn't telling the truth. And that raises that nagging bugaboo: Why wouldn't he want to tell the truth about knowing Bialek?

I suspect that's the part of the story that's gonna get chased.


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SomethingFishy Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:26 PM
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22. I don't disagree.. I just find it odd
that anyone would involve themselves with someone they say assaulted them. I never said it didn't happen, but the comment about her hugging him set of my bullshit meter.

This whole thing is moot anyway Cain was never a real viable candidate. This is all sideshow shit.

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:40 PM
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26. I hope you are correct in writing Cain isn't a viable candidate...
but we can't really be sure that the irrational party will do something predictable.


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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:33 PM
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24. Even if the hug was accompanied by a whisper in his ear (this is known) which might be
"I'm going to take you down you sexist mutherfuker."
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:35 PM
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25. I'll refer you to this thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=2262317&mesg_id=2262317

Go down about half of the way in the thread and read the truth about that picture.
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SomethingFishy Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:29 PM
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29. Well if it wasn't her then it's my mistake and the mistake
of the OP here... Not much I can do about that. I was commenting on what was said in the OP if the info is false than anything I said is moot.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:37 PM
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7. Cain gets REALLY nasty, shoots self in foot
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winstars Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:53 PM
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12. Hotel records of upgrade?????
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:05 PM
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15. It was enough years ago, those records are LONG gone.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:59 PM
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13. Meanwhile, Herm continues to suck up all of the media oxygen while
Romney and the establishment RNC are gasping for air. Keep fighting these charges, Herm! :rofl:
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:07 PM
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16. They forced Wiener to resign from Congress for much much less than this.
So when is Mark Foley going to come to Cain's defense?
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:10 PM
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17. And Howard Dean was hounded out of his campaign by the media for nothing
but one loud, exhuberant shout.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:32 PM
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23. That is an absolute lie.
And that is absolute.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:14 PM
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18. She says she asked him "Do you remember me?"
I think it was a way for her to get close enough to whisper in his ear. She said he looked "uncomfortable" when she told him where they knew each other from.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:15 PM
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19. I've been boinked by alot of guys who will swear they never knew me ...
... it's called alcohol, power, and sociopathic tendencies.
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:17 PM
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20. It's hard for narcissists to keep track of all the names of people they objectify and abuse.
She was probably just one in a long line of women he tried to get blowjobs from.
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:18 PM
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21. It must be hard for narcissists to remember all the names of those they abuse.
She was probably just one in a long series of women he tried to get blowjobs from.
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:09 PM
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27. This is really off the deep end but
could this woman be intent on "helping" Cain by making a statement that is basically false so that the other women will be looked upon as making false statements too? I mean if she's lying, it might make sense to suspect the others are to. And we KNOW Fox News would jump on it as PROOF that all the others are lying and so spin the whole thing to his benefit. Whatever the case, I think she's a nut...possibly harrassed, but a nut. I think it's all a conspiracy, but then I'm a nut too. :crazy:
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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:57 PM
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30. That occured to me. It would catapult Cain into a guilt Thomas style win.
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spedtr90 Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 08:07 PM
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31. Entirely possible!
March in with Gloria Allred (one of the most disliked attorneys in the world), give some disgusting details, and take advantage of the media's attention deficit(what other 3 accusers?) If people can be convinced she's lying, they are all liars. I thought that was the plan since I saw Allred.

Cain said accusations should be ignored - and then accused Democrats of orchestrating the accusations. Good grief!
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:23 PM
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28. There should be a huge monitor there
And show the picture just taken weeks ago. LOL!
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