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Tue Nov-08-11 10:18 PM
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Coach Paterno is Keith's Worst Person tonight |
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Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 10:38 PM by proud2BlibKansan
Wow. What a sad end to a great career.
edit - spelling - ouch!
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Tue Nov-08-11 10:23 PM
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not that his career is ending.... if allegations are true.. it should.
It makes me sad b/c this will be the last thing he is remembered for and his apparent lack of integrity now clouds every thought I have about him. :(
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Tue Nov-08-11 10:27 PM
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It's very heartbreaking. How many kids were hurt? I hate to even ask.
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Tue Nov-08-11 10:23 PM
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2. Ya know, that's my gripe with the Worst Person feature |
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it's pretty easy to see that Paterno was hardly the 'worst' person in that sad affair. I don't care that he's the big name. He wasn't the predator, or even the guy who directly witnessed the incident. He should have done more than he did, definitely. But how can he be 'worst' person when clearly SANDUSKY was the worst? Or does Sandusky get off for being obviously mentally defective or something?
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Tue Nov-08-11 10:25 PM
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4. Sandusky isn't a household name |
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:12 PM
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13. The higher you go, the farther you fall |
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:40 PM
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15. he was worse than Sandusky. Sandusky apparently has urges |
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he can't control. Paterno could. He didn't act even though he could have. Nothing held him back but ego, money, legacy all the rest. He is actually the worse person in this between the two because it could have ended if he had done anything but he didn't. He also kept a pedophile on the team after knowing for more than ten years or longer. He is the worst of the two because he can't point to mental defect.
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Tue Nov-08-11 10:25 PM
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3. Yup - I guess keeping a sports program running was more important to him |
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than real, live people. His dedication went a bit too far.
And O'Reilly was the "worser" person. That was funny, as Keith commented on O'Reilly's failure to mention a word about Cain's harrassment and instead talk about the Cain story in the context of ratings, all the while whispering the words "Andrea Mackris" to the viewers.
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Tue Nov-08-11 10:35 PM
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7. I'm not going to justify it but I think I understand. |
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A football program - any sports program - is like a family. I'm betting he thought he could - and should - handle it as a family matter.
The other thing I thought of is sexual abuse of children hasn't always been considered criminal. In Joe's childhood, it was probably covered up. I'm young enough to be his daughter and I can remember a couple men who were outed when I was a kid. One committed suicide and the other one quietly left the area and settled in New York. Both had been sexually abusing young boys for years. Today they would both be arrested but 40 years ago, they weren't. It may have been a criminal offense then but it was something no one talked about and the offenders were quietly whisked away. That's the culture Joe grew up in. Not saying it's right and I certainly appreciate that it's a BAD criminal offense today. But it hasn't always been.
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Tue Nov-08-11 10:47 PM
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9. And the victims were left to fend for themselves - some survived okay, |
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Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 10:50 PM by sad sally
but some turned out to be abusers themselves or committed suicide or ended up hating themselves and everyone who looked the other way.
The guy who shouldn't sleep at night without being visited by demons is Mike McQueary. He is the key witness in the case, as a grand jury report detailed a 2002 incident in which McQueary supposedly witnessed Sandusky sodomizing a young boy in the Penn State football locker room showers - a boy he said looked to be about 10 years old. Why in the hell didn't he interupt this violent act and take this boy out of the locker room immediately? Nope, who does he tell? His father. He then told Paterno, and Paterno told Curley and Schultz. After that, pretty much nothing happened. I don't know if McQueary had any connection to kids at the time (siblings, cousins, neighbors or even knew any), but I can't imagine not confronting the bastard injuring a child. He's as sick as Sandusky.
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:02 PM
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11. Yes I agree that's beyond sick. |
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I can't even imagine what would possess him to not call the police.
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Tue Nov-08-11 10:32 PM
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I notice for a lot of sports fans it isn't about the child/children who were raped its about a coach's reputation.
They all need to go.
That is what is wrong in this country,sports and certain sports figures can do no wrong. Its nothing but a damn game.
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Tue Nov-08-11 10:37 PM
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8. It's also a huge industry |
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Lots and lots of money to be made.
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Tue Nov-08-11 10:53 PM
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10. Fuck Paterno. He was a big Bush and Cheney supporter when he |
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should have been putting time in protecting kids.
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:08 PM
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12. Paterno was silenced by Spanier, and Sandusky was.... |
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the real worst person!
The saddest thing is that the students love Joe Pa so much, they've all over his lawn right tonite, chanting "We love Joe."
But the University is planning an "exit strategy" for Paterno, and the town actually has police in riot gear at the ready for whatever might happen downtown...
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:42 PM
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16. nobody can silence anyone without their consent. Paterno was |
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a grown man who pretended to be immensely moral. No one can tell a moral man to be silent without their consent. He is a bitch.
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Wed Nov-09-11 02:52 AM
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19. If you think Spanier had the power to silence Joe without Joe's agreement... |
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... You don't understand the power structure at Penn State.
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:19 PM
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14. Remember woody hayes? Great coach and all people remember is the punch! |
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:42 PM
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17. the last punch of millions. He deserves to be villified. |
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