So did Herman say he would or wouldn't take a lie detector test yesterday?

[NNN0LHI]

http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2011/11/08/herman-cain-hed-submit-to-a-lie-detector-test-maybe/

Herman Cain: He’d submit to a lie-detector test — maybe

In a pair of Arizona appearances before reporters, GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain said today he would be willing – under the right circumstances – to submit to a lie detector test in order to settle public accusations that he had attempted to grope a woman who had sought his help to land a job.

“I absolutely would. But I’m not going to do that unless I have a good reason to do it,” Cain said. the candidate also dismissed any notion that he’d be withdrawing from the contest. “Ain’t gonna happen,” he said.

[SpiralHawk]

1. I'll give you a good reason, Hermy

The vast majority of Americans think you are a harassing pig and a liar. As a republicon, you have a moral obligation to prove to the American people that they are right.

[Ilsa]

2. Herman only does stuff when he knows the deck is stacked

in his favor. I think he honestly believes he didn't harass those women, so who knows? Maybe he would pass it.

[Dennis Donovan]

3. "...unless I have a good reason to do it."

...and that supposed "good reason" is all up to Herm. Sounds like he has NO intention of taking a polygraph.

[Gamow]

4. There is no such thing as a reliable lie detector.

I don't understand why so many people think otherwise.

[pipi_k]

15. If given to him only, probably not...

but if Cain took one and "failed" and if each of those four women took one and "passed", I think we could be confident that one side is being more truthful than the other.

He would be hard-pressed to explain how he managed to fail and four women all managed to pass...

:shrug:

[mwb970]

5. Shades of O'Donnell's "I am not a witch".

Among the things aspiring politicians should NOT be heard saying are (1) "I am not a witch" and (2) "I will take a lie detector test". By the time you find yourself having to say either of these, you are toast.

[Sienna86]

6. Cain "rejected", he did not deny

Interesting choice of language. It's as if he feels he is above these allegations. They don't amount to enough for a denial.

[Atman]

7. Yes. Er, no. Maybe.

Absolutely. Depending on what HE thinks is a good reason to do so. Maybe that's avoiding a multi-million dollar law suit. :shrug:

[Sienna86]

8. In his mind, maybe it didn't amount to harassment

The questions would have to be phrased to allow for that possibility.

[lunatica]

9. It was a stupid question to begin with

It's a straw man question. It's also a gotcha question. Not to mention it's a stupid question as well. If he says yes is that supposed to mean he isn't lying? And if he says no what does that mean? That he's lying?

Stupid question.

[NNN0LHI]

11. That is only two of the possible answers he could have given. There were more

He could have said "Heck yea, I want to take a polygraph and clear my good name! Lets get one scheduled ASAP."

He could have said that.

But he didn't.

Don

[Motown_Johnny]

10. That is a no, there will never be a reason good enough for him to expose himself

oh wait... did I just say "expose himself"? Sorry. I meant reveal himself as a liar..... oh damn, "reveal himself" isn't much better.



:sarcasm:

[lunatica]

14. LOL!

[Obamanaut]

12. There seems to be a contingent hell bent on convicting Cain. What happened to

a presumption of innocence prior to a guilty verdict (so many are salivating for)?

[NNN0LHI]

16. This is not a court of law where we assume a presumption of innocence prior to a guilty verdict

This is the court of public opinion.

Do you know the difference?

Don

[Obamanaut]

17. Yes, I do. But here if it's a 'cool kid', approved by those who respond, who is accused

of something one can expect to see the presumed innocence meme.

If it is not a 'cool kid', but rather someone who is in disfavor with the posters here, it's almost a 'hang the guilty bastard' mindset.

You know it's true, it's just ugly to admit it. Isn't it.

[pipi_k]

20. We see that

on an almost daily basis here, actually.

I can't argue with you on that. In fact, I've often pointed out the hypocrisy/double standards myself.

But I do have to say that even if this were one of the "approved" people, I would still think he's being less than honest, and that there has to be something valid in the claims of those women.

Oh, and just now on CNN...someone just made a good point. Herman Cain is attacking the character of those women, saying they're lying. If they are lying, then why doesn't he file a lawsuit(s) claiming defamation of (his) character?

[ecstatic]

13. Doesn't matter--he's done

There's no way he will survive this firestorm, lie detector or not!

[MoonRiver]

18. He said if it is warranted, I'm sure in his opinion.

:rofl:

[pipi_k]

19. "Warranted", yeah...

as in, if someone obtains a warrant forcing him to take one.

Which probably won't happen.

He's a slick one, that Herman...

[Javaman]

21. He would if he could, but he can't so he won't.

all clear? LOL

[zbdent]

22. "But I’m not going to do that unless I have a good reason" ... you mean, like

clearing up whether or not you're lying?

I would think that you'd have it on CNN and MSNBC, live, if you really were innocent and you NEVER (there's that binary thinking again!) acted "inappropriately" ...