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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:42 PM
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Test Shows Most Store Honey Isn't Honey
Check the list for your brand. Sorry if repost.



http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/tests-show-most-store-honey-isnt-honey/

'More than three-fourths of the honey sold in U.S. grocery stores isn't exactly what the bees produce, according to testing done exclusively for Food Safety News.

The results show that the pollen frequently has been filtered out of products labeled "honey." The removal of these microscopic particles from deep within a flower would make the nectar flunk the quality standards set by most of the world's food safety agencies.'

more at link

http://www.naturalnews.com/034102_honey_consumer_alert.html

'Just because those cute little bear-shaped bottles at the grocery store say "honey" on them does not necessarily mean that they actually contain honey. A comprehensive investigation conducted by Food Safety News (FSN) has found that the vast majority of so-called honey products sold at grocery stores, big box stores, drug stores, and restaurants do not contain any pollen, which means they are not real honey.'
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:44 PM
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1. These days I get mine from the farmer at the market
That is when I get honey.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:48 PM
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6. We get ours from a friend whose uncle is a beekeeper.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:46 PM
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2. Bee mad! Bee very mad!
:D
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:47 PM
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3. Thats fraud
Wheres the DOJ?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:56 PM
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10. Going after legal state medicinal pot users/suppliers, no time for anything else. Pot
is a national security issue, it's causing the decline of the US.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:05 PM
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13. Counting their bribe money. nt
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:46 PM
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15. It's not fraud. It's an article lying about what's required to be in honey
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 03:47 PM by jeff47
But it sure sounds evil, huh?

The regulations on what is "honey" do not include anything about pollen.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:56 PM
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16. The reason pollen isnt in it can also be because its NOT honey
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:59 PM
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17. And pollen can also be filtered out of the honey.
Lack of pollen proves nothing, in the US, as far as "honeyness" goes.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 05:31 PM
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30. Pollen has nothing to do with the production of honey or its quality.
Pollen mixed with honey, bee bread, is fed to the larva after they're weaned off the royal jelly.

Many believe that some pollen, like goldenrod, in honey can help with allergies. There's no quantifiable proof one way or another.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:53 AM
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32. Moreover without very sophisticated testing how could it be determined
where the pollen came from. For example, apple blossom pollen -- apple trees grow throughout both temperate zones.

The problem is possible adulteration, not place of origin. Test the honey itself. Honey has a very specific water and chemical content.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 05:18 PM
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29. The USA, corporation way.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:47 PM
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4. I buy my honey from the Amish market at the local farmers market
that is honey!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:47 PM
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5. I'm glad I don't eat it.
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 02:48 PM by valerief
Does the FDA check anything today except their budget?
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Ultra filtering is a high-tech procedure where honey is heated, sometimes watered down and then forced at high pressure through extremely small filters to remove pollen, which is the only foolproof sign identifying the source of the honey. It is a spin-off of a technique refined by the Chinese, who have illegally dumped tons of their honey - some containing illegal antibiotics - on the U.S. market for years.

Food Safety News decided to test honey sold in various outlets after its earlier investigation found U.S. groceries flooded with Indian honey banned in Europe as unsafe because of contamination with antibiotics, heavy metal and a total lack of pollen which prevented tracking its origin.


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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:48 PM
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7. I doesn't appear that the US requires pollen in honey
United States Standards for Grades of Extracted Honey

http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/getfile?dDocName=STELDEV3011895

In particular, filtered honey may contain little or no pollen.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:52 PM
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9. Nor does the international standard require a pollen content
CODEX STANDARD FOR HONEY
(World-wide standard)5

1. SCOPE

1.1 This standard applies to all honeys produced by honeybees and covers all styles of honey presentation which are offered for direct consumption.

1.2 The standard also covers honey which is packed in non-retail (bulk) containers and is intended for re-packing into retail packs.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/w0076e/w0076e30.htm

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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:15 PM
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18.  applies to all honeys produced by honeybees
as opposed to what?
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:20 PM
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19. Honeycows?
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 04:21 PM by sixmile
Earwigs?...
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Bosonic Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:52 PM
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26. Earwigs make chutney
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:39 PM
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22. As opposed to honey produced by other kinds of bees and insects
Honey (English pronunciation: /ˈhʌni/) is a sweet food made by bees using nectar from flowers. The variety produced by honey bees (the genus Apis) is the one most commonly referred to and is the type of honey collected by beekeepers and consumed by humans. Honey produced by other bees and insects has distinctly different properties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 09:30 PM
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31. Thanks
:hi:
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:50 PM
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8. I buy local honey with the comb in. Sometimes even the comb is inserted afterward.
My uncle kept bees and you could actually buy a wax comb to put it the hive.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 06:21 AM
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33. Most of those fake combs have been pre-licked by Paul Wolfowitz
I'm not sure if that counts as "paulination" or not.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:57 PM
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11. THanks! I didn't know about this. I don't use any of the honey brands listed, but will
still be more careful about my choices.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 02:59 PM
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12. Well shit!
Sounds like the largest players are in cahoots with each other here.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 03:30 PM
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14. Not just the largest players.
I checked 2 different brands of "honey" I bought this spring from a local produce market, and both of them are actually honey flavored corn syrup. They have very faint honey odors, but when chilled in fridge, become the consistency of Karo very quickly, and have a corn syrup lingering taste. And dissolves easily in cold water. Overly sweet taste, too.
Drats. I should have know the price was too good to be true.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:43 PM
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23. People that cut real honey with corn syrup or pass off corn syrup as honey need a long prison term.
If the container says Honey, it had better be. If it is diluted with corn syrup, it cannot use the words "Real Honey" in larger print than the word "Contains" right above it, on the label
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:25 PM
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21. Not the one's on the OP list!
Those aren't Honey at all.


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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:47 PM
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24. It's peeeeeeeeeeople!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:51 PM
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25. I buy this Diet Arizona brand Green Tea with Ginseng and honey, I wonder if they use real honey?
:shrug:

Thanks for the thread, sixmile.
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:55 PM
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27. See product tear sheet:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 05:16 PM
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28. Thanks for the link, sixmile.
:hi:
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 06:46 AM
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34. I am very fortunate to have
a neighbor, right across the street, who has hives. He is very generous with his sharing.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 06:48 AM
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35. You should always get your honey from a local source.
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