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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:11 AM
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Keystone XL: pipeline to Obama's re-election
Amy Goodman writes in the UK Guardian:

9 November 2011


More than 10,000 people gathered in Washington, DC last Sunday with a simple goal: encircle the White House. They succeeded, just weeks after 1,253 people were arrested in a series of protests at the same spot. These thousands, as well as those arrested, were unified in their opposition to the planned Keystone XL pipeline, intended to run from the tar sands of Alberta, Canada to the Gulf Coast of Texas. A broad, international coalition against the pipeline has formed since President Barack Obama took office, and now the deadline for its approval or rejection is at hand.

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The president, until recently, simply hid behind the legal argument that, as the pipeline was coming from Canada, the proper forum for the decision fell with the US Department of State and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. That was until a key Clinton insider was exposed as a lobbyist for the company trying to build Keystone XL, TransCanada. The environmental group Friends of the Earth has exposed a series of connections between the Clinton political machine and Keystone XL. Paul Elliott is TransCanada's top lobbyist in Washington on the pipeline. He was a high-level campaign staffer on Hillary Clinton's bid for the White House in 2008, and worked as well on Bill Clinton's campaign in 1996 and Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign in 2000.

Friends of the Earth (FOE) received emails following a Freedom of Information Act request, documenting exchanges in 2010 between Elliott and Marja Verloop, who FOE describes as a "member of the senior diplomatic staff at the US embassy in Ottawa." Verloop in one email cheers Elliott for obtaining the buy-in on Keystone XL from conservative Democratic Senator Max Baucus, writing: "Go Paul! Baucus support holds clout."

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Adding to the controversy, the New York Times revealed that the State Department chose as an outside group to run the environmental impact study of Keystone XL, a company called Cardno Entrix. It turns out Cardno Entrix listed as one of its major clients none other than TransCanada. The environmental impacts are potentially extreme, with, first, the potential for a catastrophic leak of the toxic tar sands extract, and, second but no less significant, the potential long-term impacts on the global climate. The Obama campaign also drew fire for hiring Broderick Johnson, a lobbyist who formerly represented TransCanada.

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Canada delivering Keystone XL pipes to U.S., CBC, Nov 8, 2011 5:45 PM ET


Pipe destined for TransCanada's Keystone XL pipeline is stockpiled near Gascoyne, N.D. (Radio-Canada/CBC)


Is this already a done deal, Mr. President?




"Tar sands oil emits three times as much greenhouse gases as a regular barrel of Canadian crude, because, of course, it is in solid form. So, you have to use all of this energy to get it out and to liquefy it." -----Naomi Klein



Demonstrators carry a giant mock pipeline while calling for the cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline during a rally in Washington. (Photograph: Reuters/Joshua Roberts)





Mr. President, to whom will you listen? The corporations leaning heavily on you, or the people outside your window?


We will very soon know the answer.









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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:14 AM
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1. The deal is done behind the scenes
now it's all just a PR dog and pony show. Sickening.
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:03 AM
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2. The deal was done a long time ago
and the reviews etc are just a formality. We'll keep burning fossil fuels until we boil the oceans.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 02:58 AM
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3. I believe that Obama's eventual approval of this project will be a mere formality.
However, he knows that the public is starting to become aware of this project, and so he's considering putting off his "official" decision till after another environmental review.

This review will postpone the decision until after the 2012 election, thus dodging that particular bullet.

The whole mess is just plain disgusting.

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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:13 PM
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4. I would like to hear his answer as to why these pipes are now being trucked into ND for stockpiling.
Why is this happening, Mr. President?


Why won't Obama just do the right thing and declare "NO" now to the deeply risky Keystone XL pipeline?

That he is postponing his "decision" until after the election is disgusting. This demonstrates to me that we should expect him to side with his benefactors at Big Oil And Gas.

Hell, this decision has already been made.


He is merely going through the motions about "addressing all of his concerns" about the environmental and public health risks.

He doesn't hear us.


Honestly, if/when he decides to defer this pipeline decision, he should face a fearless primary opponent. We need a fresh direction in the dialog.



I am with you, CaliforniaPeggy. Thoroughly disgusted.











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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:48 PM
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15. That is why the delay until AFTER the election n/t
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:50 PM
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16. it's just a ploy from the industry
. . . it won't work. Their project is in trouble.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:39 PM
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11. I agree that this is just another Obama punt...
...but the pipeline company is squawking that any sort of delay will kill the project...

I'd be fine with that end result!!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:55 PM
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18. why should he allow himself to be hit over the head during the election for pulling the plug?
The delay is certainly a political decision, but he's been reading and listening like everyone else (most everyone) and can see the implications of a long delay.

But I'm sure you'll tell me why a delay won't disrupt the project plans. Anyway, the battle has already shifted to opposing the new siting plans, so . . .
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:17 PM
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5. all of the 'done deal' talk
this is a perfect opportunity for the opposition to mobilize. The thing runs through several states, all with impressionable state legislators. Organize. Even the administration's EPA has come out against the siting. It's certainly not the time to get more pessimistic. This is light years from where we were a month ago.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:25 PM
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7. In fact, it's been suggested that the delay will kill it anyway...
Because even if it would be eventually approved, the time spent waiting and the rise in opposition from state legislatures would eat the thing alive.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:48 PM
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14. right
. . .but instead of just a hope, we can look at the delay as an opportunity to mobilize and organize further. We shouldn't get pessimistic just when the ball is beginning to roll backward.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:21 PM
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6. I just got some SPAM from Frances Beinecke
telling me what a huge VICTORY we've scored now that Obama decided to put over this decision until after the election. Complete with a button to THANK the president and multiple reference to GRATITUDE.

I can't say how disgusting I find this woman.



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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:37 PM
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10. You find the head of the NRDC to be a disgusting woman....
..interesting...
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:29 PM
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8. Leave the man alone. He is doing the best he can.
Don't you people have something better to complain about? Like how Ralph Nader is so bad.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:46 PM
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13. Or maybe how
Jane Hamsher is a secret Republican?
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:34 PM
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9. The "decision" is being delayed until after the election.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2280935

So, we won't soon know the answer....Plus, it buys time to get all the pipes to ND.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:46 PM
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12. you should read what environmentalists are saying about the implications of a delay
. . . favoring their opposition; several suggesting the delay could kill the project.

I've seen pipes stockpile at the site of dead projects before. This is just pressure from the industry and you seem to be buying into it.

The Canadian government is already out of the loop. Just yesterday they were saying there likely wouldn't be a delay.
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:52 PM
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17. If President Obama says no to the pipeline I'll...
take my crow with lots of Tabasco please.
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