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fried eggs Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:49 PM
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What if the boy from the shower committed suicide?
I saw on the news tonight that the prosecutors don't know the identity of the boy who was raped in the shower. What if he isn't even alive anymore?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:52 PM
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1. I have to wonder about the quality of investigators/detectives
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 11:55 PM by hlthe2b
in the police department.... Just sayin....Identifying the child this many years later might be challenging, but hardly strikes me as "impossible"...or even improbable.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:57 PM
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3. Are you referring to the University Police?
Campus police are usually a joke. Keystone cops for the most part. Not very well respected by real cops.

They're more preoccupied with breaking up underage drinking parties and giving bicycle tickets than solving real crimes.

When I was in college the campus police were complete assholes to the students and were always very buddy buddy with the administrators.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 12:00 AM
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4. No... I am speaking to the police department...
Edited on Fri Nov-11-11 12:03 AM by hlthe2b
Now that this has been revealed via the Grand Jury, it is their jurisdiction--or conceivably that of the state police or FBI, depending on where this ends up.

On edit, it appears the State Police have taken over...
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/11/10/exclusive-new-potential-penn-state-victims-emerge.html
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 12:01 AM
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5. Are the Penn State police sworn law enforcement officers or armed security guards with police powers
Edited on Fri Nov-11-11 12:02 AM by FarCenter
I believe that their jurisdiction extends only 500 feet beyond campus.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 12:22 AM
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8. The Pa State Police should have been there plain & simple..campus police mall cops.
Edited on Fri Nov-11-11 12:23 AM by Historic NY
there is a lots of things worng & I hope they name a special prosecutor.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 05:36 PM
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13. Totally agree. n/t
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:56 PM
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2. So many people failed those children
This country has to decide what is more important
Is it the people or business entities??
Is greed and power more important than humanity??
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 12:24 AM
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9. that is it in a nutshell. nt
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 12:14 AM
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6. If the police had been called THAT NIGHT...
And I don't mean the "campus police" because they have a vested interest in covering the ass of the school....

...well, someone might have some knowledge of the fate of this child. And very possibly, that child might have gotten at least a glimmering that someone, somewhere cared even a little bit about what happened to him...


Think about it. The silence meant that this child was not helped when he needed it most. He may be dead. He may still be out there, hurting, with no one to talk to. He might be suffering from that knowledge of that negligence in addition to the effects of the rape itself, insult to injury. He may have become an abuser himself with victims of his own. We don't know. We may never know.



Like Aslan says in the Narnia books, "we are never told what WOULD have happened." But we can't help but think about it.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 12:22 AM
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7. I keep thinking about how he felt when he made eye contact with McQueary.
He may of thought he was about to be saved and instead the coward just walked away and left him with the monster.



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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 05:49 PM
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14. The horror of that moment haunts me too.
A brief glimmer of hope and then the sure and certain knowledge that what was being done to you by an adult was okay with other adults.

Whatever thought that poor kid might have had about reporting Sandusky died when McQueary walked in on the rape and then just walked away.

:mad:
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LonePirate Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 12:24 AM
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10. The authorities should subpoena all records from Second Mile and state foster patient data.
Also, they should depose Sandusky's wife if she agrees to it, assuming she doesn't have some sort of spousal privilege to prevent it.
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fried eggs Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 09:19 AM
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11. ^^ THIS
The young boy's circumstances must have been dire for Sandusky to go that far. He was probably a foster kid, with nobody looking out for him.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 09:23 AM
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12. Yes, what if?
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Dont call me Shirley Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 05:55 PM
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15. I hope he stands up for the abused instead of becoming an abuser.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 06:42 PM
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16. what if he is one of the people mentioned in the documents
maybe he is person 1 or 3 or so on...

they got the story from the coach who saw them....maybe the kids were never asked if that was one of them...

just my thoughts running....and hoping the kid is alive and as well as he can be.









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