Centre Daily Times -- Police find no link between Gricar, Sandusky

[markpkessinger]

Police find no link between Gricar, Sandusky

By Joe Mandak
Posted: 12:01am on Nov 12, 2011; Modified: 1:45am on Nov 12, 2011

STATE COLLEGE — Investigators and friends of a former central Pennsylvania district attorney don’t believe there’s any link between his 2005 disappearance and his decision to not charge then-Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky with child molestation in a 1998 case.

Still, Bellefonte Detective Matthew Rickard said that he’s planning to review former Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar’s handling of the allegations against Sandusky 13 years ago — just to be thorough.

“There’s no evidence or anything that has ever come to my attention that in any way suggests the Sandusky investigation had anything to do with the disappearance of Ray Gricar,” said Rickard, the lead investigator in Gricar’s disappearance.

Nonetheless, Rickard said he’ll review the case. “I am looking into that, I guess, for my own curiosity ... but I don’t expect this to lead to anything.”

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[boston bean]

1. Who knows what to believe, but there have been many

tv shows about this missing prosecutor and up until now, it was never, ever mentioned that he investigated Sandusky.

They talked about how he was a prosecutor who had enemies and talked about some bad characters, but never ever once Sandusky. And by they, I mean the lead investigators of the PD that was looking into his disappearance.

And they are the part of the same group of police, investigators and prosecutor's office that have investigated this latest Penn State pedophilia case.

[Cosmocat]

9. People who never head of Ray Gricar think they NOW

have cracked the case?

1) It is NOT the "same police, investigators and prosecuters" who investigated the 98 Sandusky incident. First, GRICAR investigated it. I know in the breathlessness of this situation people lose a bit of common sense, but it is hard for the man who is missing to investigate himself. The police who "investigated" the 98 incident are the State College Borough police, they had ZERO involvement in the Gricar disappearance. The Gricar case has been investigated by local police, state police, the FBI ...

2) Ray Gricar had a brother who disappeared, and was found having committed suicide almost 9 years to the day Ray disappeared. His brother was bi-polar, and there were a lot of reports that Ray, who was a loner to begin with, had been depressed in the runnup to his disappearance.

3) He was a DA. He prosecuted, and investigated ... MURDERERSS. DRUG DEALERS. All sorts of seriously bad criminals.

For people who knew who Ray Gricar was, the running theories range from his having killed himself, to him having walked off, to some people who he either had put away or was investigating had done him in - the main focus there being a large drug ring and organized crime/political connections in the county he disappeared in.

Make no mistake, PSU GRIEVOUSLY enabled a serial pedophile, with A LOT of information that they should have know and dealt with him properly. Make no mistake, there is very likely be some more REALLY bad information that comes to light from "his charity." But, outside of Sandusky, these people are guilty for the most part of DOING NOTHING.

People are trying to connect two dots here that are MILES apart. Beyond his killing himself or walking off, the list of candidates who might have done in Gricar might be at 200 - people who have clear records of killing people or using physical violence in the course of organized crime.

Gricar did NOT prosecute Sandusky, and the incident had occurred 7 years earlier.

[Atman]

2. I'm very skeptical. Football is the entire economy of State College.

Literally, not figuratively. And we all know what tends to happen when you threaten the livelihoods of the rich and powerful. I don't have much faith that these so-called investigators are any less concerned with their own well-being and the reputation of the precious football town.

[divineorder]

3. It needs to be a Federal Investigation

Everybody is too well linked in that town to be objective, and a small town probably doesn't have the resources anyway.

[markpkessinger]

4. Gricar's disappearance was 7 years after ...

... his decision not to prosecute Sandusky. And there has been no evidence that has come to light so far that indicates they were related. Unless and until there is, these rumors are nothing more than idle speculation which do not further the cause of justice in any way whatsoever.

[divineorder]

7. Really?

You think that things ended with that incident? Were there more victims ready to come out? More testimony even about that case? What about other matters: payoffs, cheating, maybe some other covered up incidents with players?

A man supposedly commits suicide and rips out his hard drive beforehand. Kind of unusual, isn't it? Even if it were personal scandal, the hard drive would at least tell his side of the story and besides, he's dead. Why go to such trouble? Even in mass killing scenarios, the deceased leave a manifesto or note telling their side of the story. The deceased calls his girlfriend just before he disappears, don't you think he would have taken the chance to say goodbye or given her a story so that she won't look for him until it's too late. He tells her he's on the way to her place?

His body is never found-which is also unusual in a river suicide. Bodies usually float to the surface or find their way to the banks. Where is his body, and if there is a natural explanation why it hasn't been forthcoming, I would like to hear it.

[Atman]

8. +1

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[Bluenorthwest]

5. Those of us who are not sports fans think it is obvious that the

Police did at best a lazy, lousy job for years on end, and so perhaps they should not attempt to sound authoritative about any of this. It seems the local cops are part of the criminal activity, they certainly covered up lots of abuse, looked the other way, and continued to allow dozens of violent crimes against kids. They are either culpable or incapable.

[boston bean]

6. that is why you have to have a weary eye on what they say about this case.

it was all the same police and prosecutors offices, that did nothing in 1998 or 99. And then never looked into the possible connection of that case with his disappearance.

There is culpability all around on this, and people covering their asses.

So, there really has to be a non biased investigation into this.