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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 07:49 PM
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How can OccupyOakland unmask the Black Bloc nonviolently?
I'm not suggesting running up and tearing clothing off these idiot individuals (as much as I might want to)- everyone has the right to hide their identity and if you set that standard where does it stop? But what about having people tail and document these dickheads? Would that be appropriate or overly intrusive? I am unsure of the answer and glad that we at OccupyAustin don't have to deal with them. But there has to be a way to identify them through nonviolent direct action. This is one instance where the cops coul actually help the movement.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 08:15 PM
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1. Spray their heads with some sort of nontoxic dye
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 08:22 PM
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2. Paint ball guns that shoot hot pink? That would do it
but they'd have to be very, very careful.

In the meantime, everybody needs to move as far away from the violent punks as they can, isolate them and make it clear the punks are on their own.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 11:50 PM
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7. Felony assault and battery
Ever been hit by paintballs? Players wear armor for good reason. Risk of permanent injury is also fairly high
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 01:43 PM
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9. What I don't know about paintball would fit into an encylopedia
I was just wondering if something more remote than spray paint might work, too bad it doesn't.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 02:16 PM
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10. There was a post earlier about how bad actors being isolated last night and handed over to the cops
Which encampments is organized violence currently a problem?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 04:22 PM
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11. Good, that's what I've been saying
Isolate them, film them, hand them over if you can catch them safely.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 11:49 PM
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6. Prima facie assault and battery
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 08:51 PM
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3. I think you miss the bigger picture in regards to the benefit that they play to law enforcement...
Edited on Sat Nov-12-11 08:53 PM by Earth_First
They know EXACTLY who these folks are, and they depend on them to do the dirty work; the instigating that they might otherwise be found guilty of.

They could very well stop the actions of this extreme minority.

They play the Black Bloc as their pawns in order to initiate their heavy-handed response to OWS supporters.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 09:31 PM
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4. Whistles and pointing. And moving away from the black block if they put on their masks. That way
they are isolated and can be asked to leave.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 11:51 PM
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8. Bravo. Somebody gets the OWS message and approach
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 11:48 PM
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5. Are they being a problem since the first incident?
There are flakes at all the encampments, lets not confuse that with Black Bloc(k) activities
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