Muh?? View from an ex PSU player. (coaches were weird)

[Are_grits_groceries]

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“He was always grabbing the players,” Paknis says. “He would get in their space, lean up right against them. I’d also been taught you don’t touch anyone unless you are teaching a technique. Boundaries were clearly an issue. It made me feel awkward, the way he would grab or pinch them.”

That wasn’t all that made him uncomfortable during his short Penn State tenure, which followed a successful playing career on a three-time undefeated state championship high school team before starting at Brown.

Paknis found it “bizarre” that Penn State coaches all showered in the same space, behind a clear Plexiglas perimeter.

“They would talk about plays," he said. "I thought that was maybe old-school or something, so I mentioned that to coaches at other places, and they never did that. That was not for me.”
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Soooooooo they showered together......l
I've never heard of that practice among a coaching staff.
That was a ploy on somebody's part to get people used to odd behavior I'll bet.

[GKirk]

1. Doesn't sound so weird to me...

...in junior high and high school the boys used to swim naked.
I recall gym teachers occasionally taking showers with the students, but it
didn't strike me as creepy.

[snooper2]

3. Everything you just posted sounds creepy to me

:eyes:

[GKirk]

5. Well...

...when I was in 5th grade and was told by older kids that I would
be swimming naked, I didn't beleive them and did think it creepy. But
it didn't take long to get used to it.

As to the coaches, it wasn't often, and was probably in high school. It wasn't like we
were washing each other's backs.

BTW this was the 60s.

[Spazito]

15. You were expected to swim naked at your elementary school?

Am I reading you right?

[GKirk]

16. Nope...

...I was in 5th grade when I heard we would be swimming naked in 6th grade.

[Taverner]

14. As creepy as it sounds, naked swimming used to be the norm

In fact, I remember "Well heeled" athletic clubs had separate male and female pools, where both would swim naked.

Of course you didn't have to - and I didn't

But I did find it interesting, and kinda creepy

[liberal N proud]

6. What was the reasoning for swimming naked?

That just sounds strange!

[MineralMan]

7. It was pretty common in the 50s and 60s. I don't know why, but

it was. We didn't swim naked at our school, but we did have the open communal shower room. So did the girls. That's changed in some schools, and some schools now have no organized PE classes at all here in Minnesota.

But naked swimming was a common practice. Not so much today.

[vssmith]

12. I grew up on Iron Range in the 50's and we swam naked too

[GKirk]

8. I don't think a reason was given....

...but I figured out later that it may have been an early
indoctrination for the military. Ever see old footage of
a bathroom in an army barracks(I think Full Metal Jacket shows this)? No walls between the toilets.
So I figured they were giving us an early taste of military life.

[AngryAmish]

9. I think it was a laundry issue.

No pools at my high school so no issue. But Fenwick still had it until the 80s.

[snagglepuss]

10. I didn't know that men swimming naked went on into the 50s and 60s but prior

at YMCAs and colleges men swam naked. Probably about imitating ancient Greeks.

[MineralMan]

11. It didn't end in the YMCA until the 50s, when they started admitting

women to the pools. Until then swimsuits were not allowed. In schools, it went on into the 70s in some schools, and may still be in place in some single-sex private schools for all I know.

[MADem]

2. That just sounds STRANGE. Not 'team-building,' either--just weird. nt

[Avalux]

4. Hmmm.....here's another view from an ex PSU player.....

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/college/football/view.bg?articleid=1379961&srvc=sports&position=recent

Like so many other Penn State graduates, Posluszny is shocked that someone held in such high esteem as Sandusky would allegedly abuse boys, reportedly inside Nittany Lions’ facilities at times.

"We’re all in complete shock that this happened at our school, while we were there, that this investigation was going on while we were there and nobody knew," Posluszny said. "Coach Sandusky was still around. We would see him and just nobody, when we were there, nobody knew what was going on behind the scenes and that’s unfortunate and disappointing.

"He was a legendary coach who everyone held in such high regard. He was a very respectable, a very honorable guy. That is what we were led to believe."

When asked if he will always feel proud to wear his blue and white Penn State gear, Posluszny said he wasn’t sure.

[Myrina]

13. double extra creepy x 10

ewwww :hide: