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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 08:13 PM
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Man accused of killing daughters 'would do the same again'
It’s a lesson of enormous gravity of which Mohammed Shafia reminds his son Hamed as they talk, the two of them, a police-planted bug recording every word they say, inside the family’s Pontiac Montana minivan.

It’s not yet two weeks after the floating corpses of four of their family members — Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, and Geeti, 13, along with Shafia’s first wife Rona Amir Mohammad — were found inside a car submerged in the Kingston Mills Locks.

It’s close to midnight. “Be I dead or alive, nothing in the world is above (your) honour,” Shafia says. “Isn’t that right, my son?”

An example of “nasty or dishonour,” he offers: If “your sister or my daughter or your mother’s daughter” is with a man that Sharia law forbids, anyone other than a father, brother, uncle or grandparents.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1086752--wiretaps-record-shafia-comparing-daughter-to-whore
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 08:14 PM
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1. give it a few and we will hear how Christians would do the same (nt)
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 08:20 PM
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5. Some Christians have killed their kids on religious grounds ... here's one ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates

Sick is sick, regardless of which religious beliefs are used to defend it.

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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 08:22 PM
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6. Yeah, and people on DU defended her and blamed religion and her husband(nt)
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 09:04 PM
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8. Post-partum psychosis, exacerbated by her religious brainwashing. n/t
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 09:59 PM
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11. Really ! Really!
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 09:03 PM
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7. Post-partum psychosis, exacerbated by her religious brainwashing. n/t
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 09:59 PM
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12. this man will be plenty surprise when he dies. little penis putz
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 12:15 AM
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15. Christianity has had spawned plenty of crimes against women.
Let's face it, all major religions suck.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 08:14 PM
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2. Different religion, same personality type
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 08:15 PM
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3. Disgusting....
No matter who does it.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 08:15 PM
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4. Thank goodness he won't be able to.
When cultural ways collide...there is nearly always trouble.

It's not usually quite this horrible, though...

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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 09:28 PM
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9. Funny how those who are proud to wear the cultural relativist label become super selective
and never appear on THESE kinds of threads that so amply demonstrate how woman hating these religions/cultures really are.

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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 10:42 PM
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13. What Ever!!! Let's get on the same page that religious violence against women is unacceptable!!
I swear, From the grave, Ada bids me to speak. Ada Shaheen Abul-Hassen, one of my best dear friends of my life. Competent, loving, clever, generous, hilarious, gorgeous was Ada !

She came from Florida, but her father would threaten her and her younger sister with a gun if they ever "dishonored" the family. At 17, he had a husband picked out for her who was also his business associate. She ran away and came back a year later and liberated her little sister.

She came out west in 1970. Her life is a book but in the end, she succumbed to drugs and alcoholism and it killed her.

My dear Ada's life is a cautionary tale for ANY civilization.

Honor the women. Let women alone, to privately decide all matters regarding their bodies.

Any time we see different, let bells and alarms and red flags happen.
We have to work together, we have to evolve.

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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 11:04 PM
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14. Oh Mojeoux, I am so sorry about your friend!
I love your last line though, so true....


"We have to work together, we have to evolve."
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 03:12 AM
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21. Thank you riderinthestorm.
Ada died long before the Iran hostage crisis. It may have done her soul good to read the stories of brave women who have spoken out against "honor" killings. She was great, she gave me a horse when I was sad.

In my childhood religion of Catholicism, women still can't be priests, and the Vatican covered up the crimes of the pedophiles. So, all these old time religions need serious revisions.



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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 09:31 PM
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10. These kinds of stories make me sick!!!!!
Cultural differences my ass!!!! Sharia law is barbaric. How many girls and women have to die to preserve the so called family "honor"????

:grr:
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 12:17 AM
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16. This putz is no better than a Fundie extremist who'd kill his kids over stupid-ass shit.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 12:19 AM
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17. It's hard for me to think of anything that could bring more shame on a family
than murdering one's own children.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 12:19 AM
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18. but, but...we must respect their culture, and not impose
Western values... :eyes:
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 02:02 AM
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19. He already knew before he killed them it was wrong and still did it
If he truly believed, to the depth of his soul, that Sharia law was right and just, he would have killed his family publically, instead of hiding them like he did.

What a piece of shit this guy is...and his religion, as it so often turns out in this world, is just armor he wears to justfy his unjustifiable actions...

Fucking asshole.
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 02:24 AM
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20. Hate reading these stories.
n/a
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