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Tue Nov-15-11 12:22 PM
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Did anyone here see Bill Maher on "The View" this morning |
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Edited on Tue Nov-15-11 12:23 PM by Maccagirl
The tension between Hasselbeck and Maher was palatable after Hasselbeck used his appearance to berate him for some joke he made about her on Real Time. She wouldn't let him speak and even Barbara (her lord and protector) kept saying "Let's move on". Of course, at the end, Barbara said "That is what makes for interesting televion. Thanks Elisabeth!". If it had been any of the other ladies, they'd be kicked off the show for being so rude to a guest. I can't wait to see Maher's response-he always gets in the last word,
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Tue Nov-15-11 12:27 PM
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1. She came across as more of a twit than usual in that exchange. |
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Remember, however, that Joy and Whoopi walked off the set when O'Reilly was on earlier this year.
Hasselbeck would have come across better if she would have done that, rather than her snippy twit approach.
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Tue Nov-15-11 12:29 PM
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2. I think you mean: palpable ---right? |
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Tue Nov-15-11 12:38 PM
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Thanks for the correction.
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:55 PM
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27. Unless they wanted to eat each other up |
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Tue Nov-15-11 12:33 PM
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3. Elisabeth is an idiot who adds nothing to |
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the show except an example of rightwing stupidity and vapidness. I'm not the world's biggest Bill Maher fan, but I'm pleased he got under her skin.
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Wed Nov-16-11 12:10 AM
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Sorry, but if the OP can be corrected...:P
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Tue Nov-15-11 12:34 PM
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4. Rude and nails on the blackboard shrill. |
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I don't know what the hell she wanted from him.
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Tue Nov-15-11 12:34 PM
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5. I think Maher's show is on hiatus until January..... |
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.....so there will be no immediate response on Real Time.
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Tue Nov-15-11 12:52 PM
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8. He can show up on another show like Keith's show- Countdown |
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:pals: That way we won't have to wait!;-)
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Tue Nov-15-11 01:35 PM
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14. He's going to be on Letterman tonight.. |
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I wonder if he'll mention it, or if it's even worth mentioning her?
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Tue Nov-15-11 12:47 PM
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7. Jeebus, Hasselbeck's an oversensitive twit! |
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I couldn't believe how childishly she was behaving - she got no points and came across like a petulant child. My guess is Maher's gonna tear her up this weekend on his show - he'll probably have a New Rule just for her.
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Tue Nov-15-11 01:12 PM
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12. Real Time is on hiatus until next year |
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Edited on Tue Nov-15-11 01:14 PM by DesertRat
IMO, the best thing that he can do is ignore her. I think he did a great job on the View by staying very calm and looking slightly amused while she went after him.
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Tue Nov-15-11 01:00 PM
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Tue Nov-15-11 01:07 PM
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10. I found video of the exchange |
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http://www.businessinsider.com/bill-maher-elisabeth-hasselbeck-the-view-fight-video-2011-11My favorite part was when Hasselbeck said: "Wow, I actually feel smarter sitting next to you." Maher replied,"Really? Because I feel like I'm in high school sitting next to you." :rofl: :fistbump:
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Tue Nov-15-11 01:09 PM
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11. That was priceless! nt |
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:31 PM
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18. ha ha she feels smarter sitting next to him.....don't make me hurl.... |
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Tue Nov-15-11 03:05 PM
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33. thanks! that was great to see. |
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Bill seemed a bit uneasy, didn't he? Even before Lizbeth drilled into him. I think womyns make him uncomfortable :)
he did have a great opening point about when there are only men around, like church, football, etc., they end up doing stupid things.
I like Bill, he's one of the sharpest tacks out there (altho at times I want to punch his lights)
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Tue Nov-15-11 07:35 PM
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46. That was definitely the best exchange |
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Her behaviour was as bad as I've ever seen on that show. Barbra's closing at the end was priceless as was Shaq's comment to Elisabeth - he was clearly ribbing her.
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Tue Nov-15-11 01:27 PM
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13. Hasselbeck is a Fundy Harpy. She was probably afraid of Maher. |
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Because in her heart of hearts, she knew he is right
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Wed Nov-16-11 06:08 PM
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52. Your empathy for Maher fits with your general POV on everything else. |
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If you thought about what he said re: exchanging Lara Logan for Hasselbeck, you still wouldn't understand why it was deeply offensive and revealed maher as the sexist pig he's always been.
Now and then over the years I've watched Maher's show. He's a fossil whose attitudes were molded by Hugh Hefner and Playboy magazine. Before Maher got a lot of plastic surgery he was looking just like Freddy Kruger too. :7
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Tue Nov-15-11 01:53 PM
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15. The treatment was a sneak attack and very little time was given to Bill's book. Bill will exercise |
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:05 PM
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16. I caught it on the west coast thanks to you! |
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:28 PM
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the contrarian here.
Generally, I disagree with everything Hasselbeck says, and agree with Maher. I appreciate edgy comedy, and am a huge fan of Lenny Bruce. "Religions Inc.," "Thank You Masked Man," "Comic at the Palladium" -- if you haven't heard these routines you've missed some of the best belly laughs of your life. (And if you want to hear something truly and incredibly ahead of its time, listen to Lenny in "The Concert at Carnegie Hall" talking about child molestation. It's January 1961, and he's openly discussing child sexual abuse, saying, "Just because he's your uncle doesn't absolve him." An amazing moment--in what is I think the most amazing comedic performance of the 20th century).
That said, I think making a joke about sending a woman off to be gang raped is over the top. Maher should have just said, "Yeah, in retrospect that was over the line. I didn't know the details of what had happened to her when I made the joke, but now that I do I admit it was a crappy thing to say, and I'm sorry." And maybe he would have, if Hasselbeck hadn't kept interrupting.
If Rush Limbaugh had made the same joke about, say, Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi, I suspect the comments on this thread would be very different.
Jokes about rape are like jokes about assassination -- especially when directed at a specific public figure. IMHO it's territory any thinking person ought to avoid.
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:34 PM
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20. when Maher made the joke about Hasselbeck, the insufferable harpy, |
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Ms Logan had just been detained by Mubarak. It was well before Logan was attacked in Tahrir Square and sexually assaulted.
So, sorry, it wasn't a joke about rape, but about detention.
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Tue Nov-15-11 03:00 PM
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30. Correct. He made the joke before Logan was attacked. |
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Bill made the joke as far as I can tell on February 4; Hasselbeck responded on the 7th; Logan was attacked on the 11th and the news broke on the 15th. http://www.examiner.com/the-view-in-national/elisabeth-hasselbeck-calls-bill-maher-chauvinistic-bigot-for-joke-about-herShe's distorting the timeline because she knows the joke was funny.
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Tue Nov-15-11 03:04 PM
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32. I'm surprised he didn't say that. I remember that as well. nt |
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Tue Nov-15-11 03:34 PM
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38. I think he just wanted to let her dig her hole deeper... |
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Tue Nov-15-11 03:47 PM
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39. No, it was a joke about Lara Logan being "hot".... |
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and Elisabeth Hasselbeck being a bitch.
That was the joke, at her expense. A very misogynistic joke....and men on TV keep getting away with it!
I still say they all, (and we) deserve an apology.
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Tue Nov-15-11 07:30 PM
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and many of my friends we always refer to Hasselbeck as Elizabitch...
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Tue Nov-15-11 05:24 PM
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Edited on Tue Nov-15-11 05:25 PM by thucythucy
Maher's half-contrite demeanor, and his comments about being on HBO and sometimes when you're on the line you cross over it, or whatever, made it sound like he was agreeing it was a cruel thing to say but he just didn't feel like apologizing.
So this is more like the Letterman/Palin bruhaha, where Palin deliberately misconstrued what Letterman intended, and acted the martyr. I get it now.
But it's too bad Maher didn't make it clear he made the comment before the Tahrir Square attack. It definitely left the impression he was joking about rape, and no matter what he says on his program or in any other forum, there are going to be millions of View viewers left with the same misimpression I had.
Maher must have been having a bad day. Generally speaking, he doesn't seem the type to let that sort of mischaracterization go by.
I still stand by all the stuff I said about Lenny Bruce.
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:39 PM
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22. I absolutely agree, he should have apologized to all the women |
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on the View, to Hasselback in particular, and to the audience for that totally offensive remark. Rape is not funny, and no one should have to go through what Lara Logan went through- and it certainly isn't fodder for jokes!
The whole interview was awkward because there was no apology on his part, making it difficult to move on.
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Tue Nov-15-11 04:27 PM
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40. It wasn't about rape. Scroll up |
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Tue Nov-15-11 11:19 PM
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47. The week after the attack on Logan, on his show, Maher came out |
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and blatantly stated that the Middle East treats its women like ****. He made a big point about it. He obviously regretted his previous joke.
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:32 PM
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19. She was totally out of her league. I also noticed Barbara Walter's disdain for OWS. |
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She certainly has forgotten where she comes from.
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:37 PM
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21. I don't know how anyone can watch that show |
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Everyone on there is pretty much the worst spokesperson of their side.
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:52 PM
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24. I'll admit. I watched the clip posted above and now my head hurts and I'm feeling suicidal. |
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:54 PM
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26. Yes, I rarely watch it... |
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Hasselbeck is shrill and won't let anyone else speak....and if the conversation does start to get good, Whoopi makes one of her insipid segways to another topic or a commercial.
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Tue Nov-15-11 03:23 PM
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From Wikipedia:
In journalism, a segue is a method of smoothly transitioning from one topic to another. A segue allows the host or writer to naturally proceed to another topic without jarring the audience. A good segue makes the subject change seem like a natural extension of the discussion.
Also used in music.
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Tue Nov-15-11 03:30 PM
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Isn't "Segway" one of those two wheeled vehicles that you stand on as you buzz around?
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:50 PM
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23. Mitt Romney - because at least he eats with a knife and fork... |
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:53 PM
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25. Those stupid shout shows are all scripted. Why waste the time? |
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:56 PM
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28. Sorry to be the ignorant one here.... |
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...but I seem to be well-qualified in this instance.
I could look it up, I know....but I'd rather hear it from my fellow DUers:
What exactly is Hasselbeck's claim to fame, anyway? Wasn't she on Survivor or something?
I suppose I'm curious as to why she's co-hosting a program where women of actual accomplishment are discussing actual issues (well, sometimes).
I guess I can see the need for one of them to represent the dim-bulb contingent. If Bill lit her up, she probably had it coming, based on the nuggets of ignorance I've seen her spew on occasion.
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Tue Nov-15-11 03:16 PM
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35. survivor is pretty much it |
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Edited on Tue Nov-15-11 03:18 PM by noiretextatique
other than that, she is just another empty-headed RW blonde. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_Hasselbeck
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Tue Nov-15-11 04:41 PM
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Maher line would have to be one that he directed at Sarah Palin:
"We'll show you Barack Obama's birth certificate when you show us your high school diploma."
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Tue Nov-15-11 02:58 PM
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29. Well, I didn't see it but I applaud her for being rude to him. |
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He's a misogynist asshole and he deserves it.
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Wed Nov-16-11 06:02 PM
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Over the years Maher has insulted and demeaned many women. I've seen him do it on his show.
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Tue Nov-15-11 03:01 PM
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I do love the line I feel like in High School next to you. Great job Bill
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That was so staged. She never sits next to the guest. She always sits next to Sherry and Joy sits next to the guest. It's always that way. Baba & her producer just made themselves look awful in all of this. They gave that snivelling little cow her way - as usual. Her crap about teaching her kids - what to belittle people, to talk over people, to interrupt people. Got to heck Elizabitch
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Tue Nov-15-11 07:23 PM
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43. They let her have her way for ratings |
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But in the end, it was Elisabeth who looked like a fool.
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Tue Nov-15-11 07:27 PM
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44. Why would I watch one dipshit spar with another dipshit. |
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Bill and Lizzie deserve each other.
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Wed Nov-16-11 05:55 PM
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49. Why would you bother commenting on a thread about watching |
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"one dipshit spar with another dipshit" if it doesn't interest you?
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Wed Nov-16-11 06:00 PM
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50. Maher's unfunny quip re: trading Hasselbeck for the reporter who was raped was brutal sexism |
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Maher's often shown he is a sexist pig.
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