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[WillyT]

Mayors deny colluding on 'Occupy' crackdowns
City leaders say they traded notes on protesters but sweeps were no coordinated scheme
By Jim Gold - MSNBC Reporter
updated 2 hours 33 minutes ago

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Eleven mayors participated in a conference call last week about "Occupy" protests in their cities, but they deny their talk was a strategy session to coordinate the sweeping of demonstrators' encampments. "It was more like a therapy session," Amy Ruiz, spokesman for Portland, Ore., Mayor Sam Adams, told msnbc.com on Tuesday about the Nov. 10 call.

Portland was one of at least five cities where over the next four days after the call police moved in on anti-Wall Street camps. Others included Denver, Salt Lake City, Oakland and New York. The call was organized by the U.S. Conference of Mayors, which said 11 mayors participated but the records of who called were not immediately available.

Another "conversation" about Occupy Wall Street was held in early October, the Denver mayor's office told NBC station KUSA. "The conversation was focused on general information-sharing and best practices surrounding the challenges and opportunities this unique situation presents to every city," Amber Miller told KUSA.

On Tuesday, Oakland Mayor Jean Quan's acknowledgement of talks brought charges of anti-Occupy collusion among mayors from a variety of watchdogs, including broadcaster RT and progressive blog Firedoglake. "If you thought the recent crackdowns of Occupy encampments across the country was more than a coincidence, there is a good chance you were right," an article on RT.com said, citing the interview with Quan.

"I was recently on a conference call with 18 cities across the country who had the same situation," Quan told the BBC, which shared the audio tape with the radio show "The Takeaway," which also raised the cooperation question. "What had started as a political movement and a political encampment ended up being an encampment that was no longer in control of the people who started them." It was unclear which conference call Quan was referring to.

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More: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45312298/ns/us_news-life/#.TsMlFT1Fu7s

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[Sarah Ibarruri]

1. Conferences to deny basic Constitutional rights to citizens. Don't you just love America? nt

[RKP5637]

4. Give it a few more years on the current trend line and this will look like the good times. n/t

[Sarah Ibarruri]

7. Don't forget that when people are left with nothing to lose, what follows is revolution...

and revolution isn't always bloodless.

[RKP5637]

9. I think many are approaching that, nothing to lose. I am hoping that OWS grows

and grows and becomes a large united block in this country causing change. I think many Americans are waking up to the fact there are some very serious issues in this country, I hope they don't all wake up too late and then wonder WTF, how did it get like this.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

30. Yep, and right now the message needs to be spread far and wide

We have the tools (Internet, protests, letters, phone calls, e-mails, auto decals, word of mouth, etc.)

[gateley]

2. Is Quan still there?

She should have been run out of town by now.

This is too much: ""What had started as a political movement and a political encampment ended up being an encampment that was no longer in control of the people who started them."

She really meant it was becoming a threat because "those people" didn't just go away.

[EFerrari]

5. This is the same woman who said Oakland was a progressive city because

there were a lot of homeless and unemployed people there.

[greytdemocrat]

6. You have to be kidding!! n/t

[EFerrari]

19. No. It was on tape and ran on our local news the day after

the police almost killed Scott Olsen.

[gateley]

13. Is she Republican? Sure sounds stupid enough. Unbelievable. nt

[EFerrari]

18. No and her history is progressive activism.

It looks like the Pod People got to her.

[gateley]

21. Wow. Another one bites the dust. nt

[EFerrari]

3. Collusion at a minimum. And DHS was in on it.

Definitely not Kansas any more.

[ChiciB1]

8. Lying IS Second Nature To All Of Them... I've Said It Many Times Before

and for many, many years... APATHY has caused them to take advantage. I agree it has been an insidious, slow moving process that many never even saw taking place, but far too many people simply weren't paying attention. AND, the copious distractions of wedge issues played a significant role in it all.

NOW it seems we will have to FIGHT back and FIGHT BACK hard for a very long time. If just this simple "lie" being perpetrated right now is accepted in any way, we will be taking another step backward.

THEY LIE, and that's all there is to it! Call BS where you see it and let us back down no longer! Our whole political system has been turned on it's head. We've been hijacked for far too long.

Not all of them are in collusion, but those that are so callous and corrupt outnumber those who aren't by a wide margin!

THEY LIE!

[RKP5637]

14. +1000 +++ n/t

[sad sally]

10. Check out this article.

According to this official, in several recent conference calls and briefings, local police agencies were advised to seek a legal reason to evict residents of tent cities, focusing on zoning laws and existing curfew rules. Agencies were also advised to demonstrate a massive show of police force, including large numbers in riot gear. In particular, the FBI reportedly advised on press relations, with one presentation suggesting that any moves to evict protesters be coordinated for a time when the press was the least likely to be present.



Continue reading on Examiner.com Update: 'Occupy' crackdowns coordinated with federal law enforcement officials - Minneapolis Top News | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/top-news-in-minneapolis/were-oc...

[WillyT]

15. Saw It... And Thank You For Posting It Here !!!

:bounce:

:hi:

[RKP5637]

16. When do we cross over into being a police state or are we just about there, but

the full force is still veiled.

[sad sally]

22. The US has made a sad departure from the Bill of Rights into a Police State

With the stroke of an autopen from the other side of the Atlantic Ocean, the once articulate critic of the Patriot Act signed a four year extension of the most dangerous assault on American civil liberties in US history without a single additional privacy protection.

• allows broad warrants to be issued by a secretive court for any type of record, from financial to medical, without the government having to declare that the information sought is connected to a terrorism or espionage investigation;
• allows the FBI to obtain wiretaps from the secret court (i.e. “roving wiretaps”,) known as the FISA court, without identifying the target or what method of communication is to be tapped;
• allows the FISA court warrants for the electronic monitoring of a person (“lone wolf” measure ) for whatever reason — even without showing that the suspect is an agent of a foreign power or a terrorist.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/06/20-10?du

[RKP5637]

24. I was telling someone recently I don't even feel like a citizen anymore but an

enemy of the state. The attitude in the country by TPTB seems to be everyone is guilty, we just haven't caught you yet.

[Warren Stupidity]

23. "Congress shall make no law..."

And yet the executive branch, without even a law that cannot be made, is out coordinating the suppression of 1st amendment rights.

This is sickening. Corrupt. The covenant is broken.

[TBF]

11. I'd only be surprised if they WEREN"T coordinating. nt

[rhett o rick]

12. Authoritarians love to bully. A much better strategy would be to let the protesters camp in the cold

Give them pizza and be friendly. That might neutralize the whole thing. But to beat them with clubs is guaranteed to make them more determined. But authoritarians only operate one way, violently.

[RKP5637]

31. We seem to have more and more authoritarians anymore, and they seem

to feel they have permission to beat on anyone. I certainly noticed that really increasing after 911 and with the Bush regime. And the whole tea party crap has been nothing but a bunch of authoritarians. As you said, "authoritarians only operate one way, violently." I get soooo tired of it all.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

17. I will repeat. Sun Tsu more or less said

When you give your enemy no escape rout, no choice but to fight to the death, they will, and you won't like it.

[XemaSab]

28. Good call

:thumbsup:

[lonestarnot]

20. What a fucking democracy! Yeah. Hmmmmf!

Son of a bitch! People volunteer to die for this?

[Zorra]

25. Let's stop pretending nice, and start calling it what it is.

It's fascism. Smell that stench? It's here. It's those great big stinking diseased elephants in the room, stomping us into submission right here in our very own house. They're defiling our house and we need to kick them to the curb and run them over with a bus.

And think of the children! (That's actually no longer a joke):-(

Fascism.

How can anyone deny the fact that private powers have grown more powerful than our democratic state? They own our government, it's as plain as day.

"The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power."
-Franklin D. Roosevelt

Have you noticed that the emperor is not wearing any clothes?

[RKP5637]

26. Exactly what has happened,"...private powers have grown more powerful than our democratic state." nt

[Ilsa]

27. Excellent post.

Too bad there isn't a way to hack into their phone systems and prevent the calls.

[SammyWinstonJack]

38. plus+++++++

:thumbsup:

[Enthusiast]

29. Fascism!

[NorthCarolina]

32. I say "Busted". Of course, in GD:P it's still only "unsubstantiated rumor" there. nt

[Tx4obama]

34. The 'rumor' is that the FED was involved.

What's the big deal?
Mayors of cities DO talk to each other often.
And also Governors of states talk to each other - they even get together in person for yearly conferences.

The issue that folks have been disagreeing on is DHS/FED involvement - there is NO evidence at all that the FEDS were involved.
Only 'one' reporter's story that had NO named sources.

[surrealAmerican]

33. I don't understand why they are lying about this.

It's not illegal for the mayors to plan their actions together, and it's pretty obvious they did just that.

All they accomplish this way is to undermine their own credibility.

[Tx4obama]

35. Who is lying about what? n/t

[surrealAmerican]

36. The mayors:

Why should they claim they didn't plan these actions together?

[Tx4obama]

37. There is NO proof that they planned anything together.

Did you read the WHOLE article on the link in the OP?

Excerpt:

SNIP

Ruiz said mayors on the Nov. 10 conference call merely traded notes about what was going on with Occupy protests. News of an overdose in Vancouver, British Columbia, and a hit-and-run in Washington, D.C., were among the topics.

The mayors also noted that in each of their cities residents were asking about endgames and timelines, of which there were none, Ruiz said.

The U.S. Conference of Mayors says it schedules calls more than once a month but less than weekly so city leaders can discuss issues or whatever is on their minds, organizers said. Email invitations are sent to members, who are free to phone in or ignore the calls.

Regarding the Nov. 10 meeting, the mayors talked about protesters during a round-robin discussion after a short business agenda, the group said.

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[lunatica]

39. They should have another conference agreeing there's been "enough police brutality"