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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:19 AM
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Toon: Removed from their homes
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:19 AM
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1. K & R. n/t
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:26 AM
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2. Free speech is for corporations, silly liberal. n/t
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Bowwowwow09 Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:26 AM
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3. It's private property, what they did wasn't right, but it doesnt violate the first amendment
np
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:34 AM
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4. It's not private property..a deal was made to the city..the city
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 09:35 AM by shraby
has it in exchange for a corp. bigger building. The status of the property has been covered many times before. The park is a PUBLIC park open 24/7 is the deal.
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Bowwowwow09 Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:45 AM
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8. It's still owned privately, meaning the owners can change the rules
I'm not saying what the did was right, I'm just saying that it doesn't violate the constitution.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:04 PM
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9. Owners CAN'T change the rules without appealing to
city hall and having meetings and resolutions in order to change the rules on the property. They traded their rights for some privileges. Not easy to reverse.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:29 PM
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11. Sounds like you are saying what they did was right. We are choosing sides. Which side are you one?nm
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:35 AM
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5. So you think that private property trumps the First Amendment?
I dont think the First Amendment only applies in public property. And besides, the property was private on the condition it be kept open to the public.

The revolution has started.
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Bowwowwow09 Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:44 AM
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7. If you come onto my front yard, I can have you arrested
Freedom of assembly does not work on private land. If you tried to walk into a Wal-Mart and stage a protest, you would be kicked out or arrested.

Zuccoti Park is a privately owned public space, which gives the owners the right to create rules and guidelines for the property such as prohibiting tents (like they did).

This is no way violates the first amendment.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:27 PM
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10. So you speak for the 1%. You are the reason we have people in the streets. nm
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Bowwowwow09 Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:36 PM
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14. Ummm....what?
What the heck is that supposed to mean? Did you read the thread before you posted?

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:16 PM
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17. Sorry, but I get frustrated with you that stick up for the 1%. nm
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:31 PM
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13. your ownership of that property is conditional. The govt can seize it at any time.
As George Bush Jr did to build a stadium while he was governor. Freedom of Assembly works everywhere WE allow it to work. Zucotti Park opened its doors to the Occupiers and the public. The government shut them down, and not fairly.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:56 PM
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16. Y ou really should check your facts
The owners had to get a variance to build their building
part of that deal is that they had to build a park and maintain it
for public use 24/7.
So if it not a public park then the building will have to be torn down
so it is a public park

Go and google and prove me wrong
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:39 AM
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6. Welcome to DU..
I hope you enjoy your stay!

:hi:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:30 PM
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12. He wont last long. nm
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:51 PM
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15. Liberty Park didn't last as long as Kim Kardashian's "wedding"! We have to do better!
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:20 PM
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18. We have embraced the chance to show that America values the dignity of the street vendor in Tunisia
more than the raw power of the dictator ... ?






(Who said that again?)

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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:36 PM
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19. MUHAHAHAHAH ...all your constitution are belong us.
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 07:36 PM by L0oniX
Are we owned yet?
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