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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:47 PM
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Cops represent the 1% at the top. Not the rest of us. That's the way it has always been.

In America.

And in Greece.

And all over the world.

That's just the way it is.

An educational video:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=45322770#45322770

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:48 PM
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1. true dat
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:49 PM
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2. knr
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:51 PM
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3. Haven't watched the video yet, but that's the way I've always seen it - many cop
types are paid goons doing as told. Some I'm sure don't like doing it, but need to survive. There are some good cops, but I think probably there are more goons and some others conforming to the goon mentality.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:55 PM
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4. It has more to do with the political role of a police force and not the good intentions of a few.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:02 PM
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6. Yep, the enforcers of the status quo, whatever/wherever that might be ... n/t
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:58 PM
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5. Not.
My future son-in-law, NOT, nor those he works with.

There are unfortunate occasions when some cops are used in that fashion, and its up to us to let those who've used him thus that they are WRONG for doing so.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:15 PM
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9. We have already told the ruling rich they shouldn't use cops to defend the 1% and ....

trample over the Constitution, our Bill of Rights and our civil rights.

So how's that working out?
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:04 PM
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7. The purpose of the state is to execute the interests of the rich.

The police are their hammer.

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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:07 PM
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8. When the rich need physical enforecement of their un-just laws, "who ya gonna call?"
The cops! (and the sheriff)

This land is their land, they stole it from the Native Americans. The cops will enforce it as they did in OWS.

Got foreclosures? Call the sheriff to evict the victims of the bankster's fraud.

Wanna do recreational drugs? The cops will put you in jail!



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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:25 PM
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10. I'm waiting for the day I hear cops complaining they got screwed out of their pensions ...
or got fucked out of their medical benefits. My reaction will be :nopity:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:30 PM
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11. The rulers will probably be kinder to cops than other public employees.

Because the ruling rich do need the cops to enforce their laws and carry out their orders.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 01:34 PM
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12. My brother in law is a cop.
He's not a mouthpiece for anything but the law. I've known his boss, the chief, my whole life. They take good care of my mom. She's not a 1%er. She's got a real small business.
I've actually seen the chief stand up for the guys who enforce the law to EVERYONE, not just the 1%. This garbage might be true in NYC or LA but it's not true everywhere.
Most cops are good people who do their job, uphold the law with EVERYONE and all you're doing is dragging them through the mud because you're pissed that the big city cops are handling the Occupy protests poorly.
Duckie
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 02:10 PM
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13. Has your brother in law ever been ordered to break up a protest demonstration?
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 02:12 PM by Better Believe It
If not, that's good. He hasn't been tested yet on honoring and respecting the rights of the people to protest injustice.

I hope he never is.

So I am not attacking small town cops in some little towns where everybody knows the chief of police who hasn't been ordered by the rich to break union strikes or political demonstrations such as you describe.

I'm sure many people can pass along some little anecdote about a nice cop they know. My old man had a close friend who was a cop. But such nice stories don't undermine or refute my point on the political role of police departments, the protectors of law and order, especially in major cities where occupy protests are happening.

Again, my comments had nothing to do with the personal intentions of your brother in law and how nice he is to your mom, it was about the role of police in defending the economic and political control of Wall Street and corporate America.

So don't take it personal.

And what do you think should be done about police brutality and suppression of Constitutional rights in "big cities"?

Who do you think they are representing?

Is is just a few "bad apples" or are they just doing what the rulers pay them to do?

Do let your warm feelings for your brother in law and top local cop cloud your judgment on the reactionary character of the police who are trying to destroy the OWS protests and trampling on our Constitution in the process.



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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 02:48 PM
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14. I'm just going to let you think I'm naive and don't know anything.
I don't think the situation is nearly as sinister as what people are saying here at DU. I do think the 1% want to own us and get rid of the middle class as they always have, but honestly, the cops working to keep crowd control have a few bad apples and have done some stupid things, but I do believe that the majority of them are just honest people worried about keeping their jobs and their pensions and their families fed. I know a lot of cops, not just the small town chief and my brother in law, but also here in Oklahoma City. Cops are generally good people who care about the law and the constitution.
I think maybe people at DU are getting a little crazy over conspiracy theory crazy and paranoid. I live in the real world. I've been told in the last few days that I don't know anything about my job, about my family, and about anyone I've ever met because everyone but us are evil and have agendas that include turning this country into an oligarchy. I think you guys are getting paranoid and I am worried. This is why they all think we're nuts, getting off on rumor and supposition.

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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:00 PM
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16. You're 100% right! It's just cops doing their job to maintain crowd control. Don't be paranoid

Nothing to see here folks .... move along now .... just police protecting and serving the public .... move along now ....BBI

NYPD Press Repression at Occupy Wall Street Eviction
By: Kevin Gosztola
November 16, 2011


Journalists have been increasingly targeted at Occupy protests, especially during police operations to evict occupations. The eviction of Occupy Wall Street featured a number of egregious incidents, where NYPD not only did not allow the press to cover the eviction but arrested reporters and photographers for being on the scene. In fact, the day was the worst day for members of the press since Occupy Wall Street began.

An NYPD inspector took a press badge from an NBC4 reporter. Only credentialed press were permitted to stand on the sidewalk in front of Zuccotti. However, CNN’s Poppy Harlow reported via Twitter the police were not letting press through to Occupy Wall Street protesters. According to New York Observer reporter Hunter Walker, CNBC, NBC, CBS, Wall Street Journal and Reuters reporters were all blocked from viewing the raid.

The air space over Zuccotti Park (which the occupiers renamed Liberty Square) was closed to all news helicopters. Both the NBC and CBS news choppers were grounded.

AP reporter Karen Matthews and AP photographer Set Wenig were arrested. New York Daily News Matthew Lysiak was arrested. Jared Malsin, a reporter for the Local East Village, was arrested, even though he showed his press credentials. NPR freelancer Julie Walker was arrested.

Read the full article at:

http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2011/11/16/nypd-press-repression-at-occupy-wall-street-eviction/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDj7ErnZTC4&feature=player_embedded
Eviction @ #Occupy Wall Street, LRAD used Journalists kicked out as police beat sitting protestors
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 02:52 PM
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15. So does the military but look what happened in Tunisia and Egypt
The generals refused to shoot the citizens and Mubarak had no choice but to leave.

It happens.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:03 PM
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17. And what is the military doing in Egypt now? They are repressing and attacking the progressives!

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:12 PM
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20. Actually they're trying to which is probably not going to work
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:07 PM
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18. When the Nazis invaded Europe, the local police immediately shifted over to their side
In Poland, the Blue Police carried out attrocities against their own Polish citizens with zeal. In France, Holland, and the other occupied countries, the police for the most part fell into immediate lockstep with the new power structure without a hitch. It's great to enforce the law but the police tend to follow whatever marching orders they have without question. That kind of blind allegiance to whoever their master might be is troubling.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:09 PM
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19. Truth!
After all police and their sick masters have done to the #Occupation, why suddenly surrender to those who ONLY wish to destroy it, whose ONLY acts have been to destroy it? They are sickness! We are here to reject them, to show the better way of living!

This will always be the result of complying with those who seek to destroy us!



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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:13 PM
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21. They represent themselves.
If you pay a cop overtime to arrest someone they will arrest them. It has nothing to do with supporting one side or the other.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:38 PM
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22. True enough. Cops will do whatever the rulers order them to do and get paid well for doing it.
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