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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:48 PM
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BAM! - MANHATTAN BOROUGH PRESIDENT BLASTS BLOOMBERG: ZUCCOTTI ‘IS NOT TIANANMEN SQUARE’
MANHATTAN BOROUGH PRESIDENT BLASTS BLOOMBERG: ZUCCOTTI ‘IS NOT TIANANMEN SQUARE’ | As the New York Police Department moved in on Occupy Wall Street yesterday, it purposely kept journalists out of the area, even arresting a number of reporters who got too close to demonstrators. New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg defended his kettling of journalists by saying it was done to “protect the members of the press.” But Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer disagreed, saying, “American foreign correspondents routinely put themselves in harm’s way to do their jobs, in some of the most brutal dictatorships in the world. And their NYC colleagues deserve the freedom to make the same choice. Zuccotti Park is not Tiananmen Square.”

http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/11/16/369603/manhattan-borough-president-blasts-bloomberg-zuccotti-is-not-tiananmen-square/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/16/1037181/-Bam!-Manhattan-Borough-President-to-Mayor-Bloomberg:-Zuccotti-Park-is-not-Tiananmen-Square-%7C-OWS?via=siderec
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:49 PM
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1. OWSis will grow larger now
thanks rich deluded dumbasses...
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:59 PM
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2. They arrested seven journalists yesterday and cleared
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 07:01 PM by sabrina 1
the media from the airspace over NYC. A day of disgusting censorship.

Bloomberg and his Police Commissioner also violated a judge's order keeping the protesters out of the park, after the judge ruled they could not do so. He needs to answer for that, and what he has said so far, just doesn't work.

They also arrested another city councilman who was there doing his job of watching out for his constituents. They will be hearing from him also.

Despite the claim that this 'is not Tiananmen Square', it is looking more and more like that tragic place in this country as the Civilian Police backed up by unidentifiable, disguised 'forces' attack brutally, the American People.

Someone needs to seriously talk about protecting the people at this point. America's police depts have been taken over and no longer work for the people. They have become a worse threat now to the people, than any criminal organization, especially considering how they are directly targeting them, the old, they young, the disabled.

It is unacceptable and someone needs to answer for it.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:04 PM
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3. Hear, hear! n/t
-Laelth
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:09 AM
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27. K&R
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:10 PM
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5. K&R
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:20 PM
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6. K&R
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:56 PM
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7. THAT phrase sums it up, perfectly.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:56 PM
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8. It's not. It's Prague, 1968.
Bloomberg and his Whiteshirts will enforce the orders of their masters in the gilded offices.

Make the Stormtroopers good and mad and eventually they'll overstep in a way that even Joe Sixpack will be shocked to see.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 08:03 AM
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36. If inciting a police riot is your solution, then you are part of the problem.
These cops are NOT stormtroopers. They are UNION MEMBERS and unions support #OWS.

When you see them, remember that the overtime is going to give their families a great Christmas. It will also force local budgets into crisis. Cut services and jobs? Or tax the rich.

They won't be firing cops anytime soon, either.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 09:53 AM
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40. I think some of the monied
admire china and how they control their people (mentioning china). I think corporatists, like murdoch along with some of our pro-global corporate politicians, would love to have plebe control, censorship, like china. All the BS propaganda about communism through the years, who knew that there were good communists and bad communists. Oh, it depends what business the global corporates can do with them, and the people are told who to hate and who to like.

It's kind of scary going down that rabbit hole. Many people have been hurt by the con job of a few and they have a right to address those grievances if their government continually sides with those who have hurt them.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 04:48 PM
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57. What's heartbreaking are the years devoted to the lies. Lives spent in the pursuit of faux security.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:19 AM
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44. Nice try.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:20 PM
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65. They're thugs.
Funny damn way of supporting OWS, this firing of baton rounds, teargas grenades, and pepper spray by the 55-gallon drum...

And a shout out to those poor public servants who were injured when some dirty fucking hippie struck the cop's knuckles with their face.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 08:26 AM
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37. Exactly Prague Spring. nt
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:17 AM
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9. Bloomberg is the 0.01%. nm
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:27 AM
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11. Or he's the 99.99%
in terms of tactical stupidity.


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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:20 AM
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10. “American foreign correspondents routinely put themselves in harm’s way to do their jobs"
Bravo.

Thanks for the article!
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:49 AM
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47. It sounds like foreign news outlets have to start sending war correspondents
to the USA.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 03:54 PM
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56. routinely put themselves in harm’s way to do their jobs"
Besides, the only "harm" were the cops. The protesters weren't armed with automatic rifles. It's not a Teabagger rally either.

Talk about a lame excuse.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:30 AM
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12. Most excellent
Rec
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:30 AM
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13. Fucking Liar. That media "no fly zone" did nothing to "protect the members of the press."
Obvious bullshit is bullshit.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 03:25 AM
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21. The worst part is, those news choppers always seem to
turn off their feed when the cops go in, anyway. Someone calls someone and blam, the feed is cut off. After a while, you can tell when the cops are going to strike because the choppers are leaving.

This is theater, a show of force.
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stillwaiting Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:13 AM
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28. The spirit of Baghdad Bob is alive and well in the U.S. that's for sure.
We have our own Tokyo Roses intent on attempting to discourage and discredit any popular uprisings against the Wall Street elite.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:28 AM
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30. Baghdad Bob! Great post and right on point.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 04:50 PM
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58. Well said. Especially about the Tokyo Roses. It's that time again.
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 01:00 AM
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14. That should turn some heads. Tiananmen Square? Ouch..
Its true, however. The people by which this country is supposed to be governed are no longer governing this country. We are Walmart.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 01:35 AM
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15. I hope bloomy is willing to pay the legal settlements for the protestors ...
each one should demmand their due process via a jury trial......
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 02:42 AM
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16. I knew they were going to claim "safety". That's BS.
Press people go places to cover news events and get stories. They accept a certain amount of risk in doing so. They weren't asking for the City's "protection" any more than the Occupiers were asking for the City's "cleaning services." And anyhow, the only thing threatening anyone's physical safety was the massive police presence.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 02:55 AM
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19. Safety is when we literally ran with
newsies from a fire after the FD dropped the hose... we had an LP tank go OFF...

Now that is safety, and it is not limiting their rights.

This was BS
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 02:47 AM
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17. A rallying cry that puts Bloomberg's conduct in proper persepective.
Zucotti Park is not Tianamen Square. No, indeed.

Ours is supposed to be a free country, not a Communist or Fascist dictatorship.

And, as Rumsfeld pointed out in April 2003, freedom can be "untidy."

http://articles.cnn.com/2003-04-11/us/sprj.irq.pentagon_1_looting-defense-secretary-donald-rumsfeld-coalition-forces?_s=PM:US

OWS is very untidy, but that's freedom.

And freedom is not always hygienic or safe. It's freedom. It's risky. It's dirty. And it is free.



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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 02:51 AM
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18. We call this a crack, a hairline crack
in the edifice of power.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 03:20 AM
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20. k/r
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 04:06 AM
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22. The police commissioner of New York City is a Nazi goon!!
Believe me, he'll wipe out 10 Zuccotti Parks and not think twice about it!!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:33 AM
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31. K&R!
It has become a tradtion for police commissioners of New York City.
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socialindependocrat Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 04:29 AM
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23. If you have to do something without press coverage,,,
you can bet you shouldn't be doing it!!!!

All these mayors who are not supporting OWS need to be voted out
in the next election!!! They are working fot "BIG MONEY".
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spicegal Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 06:25 AM
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24. I love a quote I heard last night. It was from the
84 year old woman who got pepper sprayed in Seattle. Apparently she wrote a letter in which she talked about the women's movement. At the end, she offered a cautionary reminder, "if you screw us, we'll multiply". How clever is that?
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:00 PM
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59. Yeah, that meme was actually from Wisconsin. Their struggle is the example. Many from WI...
Also came to WA state to support workers and protest slashing the social safety net months before OWS. It was a mini-Occupation in the state capitol.

The lady in the Seattle story has given interviews and explained exactly what happened in an email sent to a local paper. She grew up in Nazi Germany and knows what fascism is.

I saw today on the news stands that local officials have apologized for her being pepper sprayed. What she had been surprised about in the attack, was that it happened right after the Seattle council had just made a proclamation supporting the movement.

In the state capitol, we've seen the state troopers help the Occupy people set up the tents. There is turmoil in all the local governments, between those who are calling for fundamental rights and principles to be respected and those who are trying to hold onto control with worn out rhetoric and tools.

Among what seems a gathering darkness, there is still light.

Welcome to DU...
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:00 AM
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25. And I thought that I hated Giuliani.
Bloomberg is far worse than that scumbag.
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libinnyandia Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:40 AM
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34. Giuliani would do the very same. They could be twins. Of
course most of the OWS people were not altar boys. They are both power hungry and would both do whaterver is necessary to hokd onto power.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:07 AM
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26. K&R! Beautiful!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:25 AM
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29. Or maybe in some respects, it is.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:38 AM
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32. K&R! Like Tiananmen Square you mean!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:48 AM
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35. Yes. Tiananmen Square was an economic protest handled badly
by authorities as well. It was to protest economic reforms which the government was instituting and was being advised by Milton Freidman.
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Sportsguy Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:38 AM
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33. Goddamn, That's Perfect!
Goddamn right it's not Tienanmen Square! Bam!
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 08:38 AM
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38. any 2nd grader could figure out
that it wasn't to protect the members of the press. it was to suppress the news. grr
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 08:44 AM
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39. k&r nt
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:32 AM
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41. Exactly. At Tienanmen Square hundreds of protesters were killed...
Zucotti Park is absolutely not Tienanmen Square.

Sid
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:44 AM
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42. Scott Stringer understands what OWS is about
and clearly he doesn't have to ask questions about clearly defined principles of a democracy.

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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:16 AM
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43. K & R
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:23 AM
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45. Thank you brother Stringer - solidarity. K&R nt
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:24 AM
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46. Bloomberg the Billionaire gets bitten. More officials need to step up and bite nt
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Blacksheep214 Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:03 PM
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48. Dear Richard Engel
Loved your work from Baghdad, Afghanistan, the Middle East, etc.

Could you please go down to the park and laugh in the faces of the mayor and his private army?

Thank you!
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Moonwalk Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:05 PM
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49. Oh, Bravo! Good comparison! That one's gonna stick!
:applause:

And by the way, we should make sure it sticks. From now on, call that raid on OWS "Bloomberg's Tiananmen Square."

And will someone please buy Scott Stringer a drink for me and ask him to run for mayor?
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julian09 Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:23 PM
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50. Recall Bloomberg
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 01:28 PM
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51. kick and rec
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 01:47 PM
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52. But but but
They hate us for our freedoms. Yeah right. Goonberg's role model must be Hosni Mubarek.
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FunMe Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 01:58 PM
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53. NYC police raiding Liberty Park and stopping people from going in/out
The FASCIST police is back in Liberty Park with batons and have stopped people out of the park. And no one can come out.

http://www.ustream.tv/TheOther99

Disgusting. Attacking PEACEFUL protesters. The world is watching!
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 02:24 PM
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54. Bloomberg serves as a convenient target to yell at
but it's those that HE takes orders from that are the real head of all this stupidity. Those generals are on Wall Street and in DC. :grr:
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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 02:37 PM
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55. lol Bloomberg is the colonel!
All he needs are shades and medals to complete the ensemble.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:19 PM
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62. Bloomberg is the one percent.
He is worth 16 billion. Bloomberg is both a General and a 1%.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:04 PM
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60. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, kpete.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:14 PM
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61. Bloomberg is just a tool of the 1%...
He's one of them.
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julian09 Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 06:46 PM
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63. Treats New Yorkers like Palestinians
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 06:55 PM
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64. I hope not. Tianamen Square didn't go so well for the protestors.




Of course, there are lots of Occupy movements now.
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