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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:05 PM
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Insight: The Wall Street Disconnect - Reuters
Insight: The Wall Street disconnect
By Matthew Goldstein and Jennifer Ablan
NEW YORK | Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:44pm EST



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(Reuters) - It was a telling moment at the height of the Occupy Wall Street protests... John Paulson, the hedge-fund trader who famously made billions betting on the collapse of the housing market, was threatened by the demonstrators with a march on his Upper East Side home in New York last month. Paulson responded by putting out a press release that described his $28 billion, 120-person fund as an exemplar of the American Dream: "Instead of vilifying our most successful businesses, we should be supporting them and encouraging them to remain in New York City."

Other captains of finance like to portray themselves as humble entrepreneurs. One owner of a multi-billion-dollar hedge fund grumbled in the midst of the financial crisis that he has to worry not only about making trading decisions but also about "all the hassles that come with running a small business."

With U.S. cities moving this week to crack down on Occupy Wall Street encampments - including the one in New York's Zuccotti Park - the staying power of the movement is in question. Whatever its future, it's clear that so far, the Occupiers haven't changed many minds on Wall Street over blame for the country's hard times. The cognitive disconnect between the protesters and the captains of finance is alive and well.

David Mooney, chief executive officer of Alliant Credit Union in Chicago, one of the nation's larger credit unions, used to work at one of Wall Street's top banks, JPMorgan Chase. There's a vast cultural gap between Wall Street and his new world, he says: Old friends from the Street, he says, now jokingly refer to him as a "socialist." A credit union is supposed to be run in the interests of all members, he says, while commercial bankers tend to see consumers as customers who can be "exploited" by layering on more fees. Says Mooney: "I don't say this lightly, but the consumer is simply an income stream and exploiting that is the purpose of the banking organization."

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Much More: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/18/us-wallst-disconnect-idUSTRE7AH0Z620111118

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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:31 PM
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1. Have you seen the bigger piggies - In their starched white shirts...

Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts
To play around in

Everywhere there’s lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives
To eat their bacon
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:53 PM
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2. A really good article. Here's more from the article...
"To put it bluntly, many on Wall Street still see the events leading up to the financial crisis as a case of banks having legitimately sold something - whether it be mortgages or securities backed by those loans - that someone wanted to buy.

Thomas Atteberry, a partner and portfolio manager with Los Angeles-based First Pacific Advisors, a $16 billion money management firm, says his success "wasn't a gift" and he had to work hard to get where he is. Atteberry says he understands the frustration many feel about income inequality. But he said the problem isn't with those who are successful, but rather our "tax codes and regulations."

While some members of the financial elite say they are willing to pay higher taxes, they note the picture for Wall Street firms is not as sunny as some on Main Street might paint it. Wall Street banks already are beginning to shed jobs, and consulting firm Johnson Associates Inc. is predicting bonuses for those who remain will shrink by 20 percent to 30 percent."

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"Many of America's well-to-do, not just Wall Streeters, say they don't feel particularly advantaged. A recent survey by marketing firm HNW Inc. found that half of the nation's richest 1 percent "don't see themselves as being part of that elite group." Also, 44 percent of those surveyed told HNW's pollsters they already pay too much in taxes."


Can you imagine? The horror of having your bonus shrunk from $1,000,000 to "just" $800,000!!1111!!!!! Oh the humanity!!!1111 Think of the poor banksters and hedge fund managers having to deal with (gasp!) regulations!!!111!!!!
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:55 PM
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3. "the staying power of the movement is in question"
I don't think so. But I understand that will be be the meme from the 1% and their mouthpieces aka the media.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:57 PM
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4. The rich in America think they're poor
Many of America's well-to-do, not just Wall Streeters, say they don't feel particularly advantaged. A recent survey by marketing firm HNW Inc. found that half of the nation's richest 1 percent "don't see themselves as being part of that elite group." Also, 44 percent of those surveyed told HNW's pollsters they already pay too much in taxes.

Maybe it is just the ethos of Wall Street, where success is defined solely by who makes the most money, that makes it hard for financiers to feel they've wronged anyone. But in a time of 9 percent unemployment and 15 percent of U.S. citizens receiving food stamps, some Wall Street alums say the financial elite are doing themselves no favors by giving the appearance of shrugging off the current mood.


Those spoiled, rich, narcissistic brats never missed a meal in their lifetimes, and they're bitching about being poor and overtaxed! Cry me a river!
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fostercareinjustice Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:01 PM
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5. I worked for a Manhattan law firm. The Wall Street crowd come from wealthy families. They went to
expensive private schools for k-12 and then went to expensive private colleges. They don't know what it's like for regular folk. That's one reason why they had no problem f***ing us. It's why they don't get our outrage now.
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