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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:37 PM
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Gingrich: Left Attempting To ‘Drive Out Of Existence’ Traditional Religion
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 07:12 PM by cal04
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/newt-gingrich-left-attempting-to-drive-out-of-existence-traditional-religion.php

Much of the first half of Saturday’s Mitt Romney-less social conservative debate was focused on the problems Christians face in modern society.

They can’t preach politics from the pulpit, Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain said. They can’t keep potential adoptees out of same sex families, all agreed. But it’s Newt Gingrich who most starkly stated the uphill climb America’s Christians are facing these days.

During a discussion about using the federal government to force states to allow religious groups to discriminate against same sex couples when placing children for adoption, Gingrich said liberals are out to destroy faith itself.

(snip)
I think that we need to be very aggressive and very direct. The degree to which the left is prepared to impose intolerance and to drive out of existence traditional religion is a mortal threat to our civilization and deserves to be taken head on and described as what it is which the use of government to repress the American people against their own values.


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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:49 PM
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1. The religion of Fellatio
because they sure do like to cram their religion down everyones' throat
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:51 PM
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2. Surprised Gingrich beat them to the punch
On saying something like this. He can be pretty savvy when he wants to be. The people they're having the debate in front of tonight are professional Christian victims, who need fainting couches when someone has the audacity to say, "Happy Holidays," to them instead of, "Merry Christmas." The candidate who comes up with the worst case scenario in front of them wins, and Newt pretty much nailed it.

TlalocW
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:00 PM
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3. Why did Romney miss it - because it focused on Christian issues and
he didn't want to attract attention to his Mormonism? Anyone know why?
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 10:11 PM
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28. The Fundies think Mormons are FALSE Christians.
Mitt knows that if he went, that particular tension would flare up.

He and the other GOP leaders don't want that. They want the fundies to shut up and vote for Mitt.

So Mitt needed to go underground during this Jesusapalousa.

Newt going to have to claim that he asked God to forgive his "indiscretions" and that god high fived him and said "No problem".

The others will then spend their time trying to out bible each other.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:02 PM
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4. Coming from the guy who changes religions like some men change wives.
Oops.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:03 PM
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5. The religion of women are property, the religion of do what we say or else...
You can keep it.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:06 PM
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6. Anybody have that pie chart, where the Christian majority part is yelpng about being oppressed?
That's what comes to mind when I read this.... :puke:
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:09 PM
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7. Ah yes, the old reliable standy-by when one needs to get people riled up.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:23 PM
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8. oh jesus h christ, shut the fuck up newt
just making shit up out of the clear blue sky is really pretty stupid.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:27 PM
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9. K&R #3 for, ain't it pharasees that kill the spirituality out of their religion?!1 n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:52 PM
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10. Actually, it's the fundigelicals who are trying to drive out of existence
traditional religion.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:54 PM
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11. It's true that some leftists have given a bad name to the Communism of the Early Church.
Communism was, after all, a primarily Christian concept among the True Church denominations before Marx took it over.

(English Baptists, Pilgrims of Massachusetts, Mennonites, Anabaptists, Quakers, Congregationalists, the Peasant Revolts)

and now we get to see the Right Wing make the concept of the free market look bad by inventing the Corporation, thereby 'Driving Out Of Existence' traditional economics.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:05 PM
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12. for someone who truly lives his faith like Newt Gingrich these must be trying times
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 08:11 PM by Douglas Carpenter
I can understand his passion to fight.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:06 PM
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13. You forgot
:sarcasm:
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:09 PM
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15. if feel kind of silly inserting that particular icon
but then again, I don't know how many times people have taken me seriously when I thought my point was pretty obvious
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:12 PM
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17. I learned that lesson.
I always include it.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:11 PM
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16. :spittake:
:spray:
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:08 PM
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14. lol if anyone is driving people away from christianity in America, it is right-wing Christians. nt
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 08:09 PM by krabigirl
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:12 PM
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18. Traditionally, religion has been a critical and powerful component of government
So... yeah, that whole "separation of church and state" thing is an attempt to drive out "traditional" religion
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:14 PM
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19. The RIGHT doesn't care about TRADITIONAL religion
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 08:16 PM by AsahinaKimi
IF they did, they would allow people to practice all the Religions of the world, and not JUST THEIR BRAND of Christianity. They would not be fighting against Atheists either. They would leave us all in Peace.
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haikugal Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:18 PM
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20. I hate to break it to him but he and those like him don't need any help.
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 08:19 PM by haikugal
They're doing a great job all by themselves.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:39 PM
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21. Last time I checked, the worshippers of Mammon were doing just fine n/t
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wakemewhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:45 PM
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22. So let me get this straight...
Freedom of religion = intolerance of Christianity?

Newt is a dick. The fact that he cloaks his right-wing talking points in faux-professorial tones is especially disturbing. What a schtick, this business of muttering conservative claptrap as if it were accepted fact.

K&R to drag him out into the sunlight, so everyone sees his hypocritical hokum for what it is.

:kick:
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The Genealogist Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:51 PM
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23. Red meat for the social conservatives
How these people sleep at night, considering all this exploitation of people's beliefs, is beyond me. Everyone of those candidates worships at the altar of Mammon. No matter what they say, that is their true god.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 09:02 PM
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24. I would have no problem with throwing organized religion away completely.
That's right Newt, you fucking asshole, I do want traditional religion gone from society. All it does is breed hatred and foster ignorance.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 09:58 PM
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25. What with religion show up at OWS the GOP has to fight back and keep
their followers in a paranoid stance against the left and Newt is doing a good job of showing his talent in this regard.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 10:05 PM
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26. Gotta hammer in those wedges lest people actually come together. Scary thought! n/t
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 10:07 PM
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27. another right wing extremist pretending to be a victim
boo hoo hoo you weird fanatic.
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Major Nikon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 10:30 PM
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29. The bigots of organized religion need to be driven out
Tolerance does not require one to tolerate bigots.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:10 AM
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30. He's fishing on how to divert thoughts to children with gays and from a tradition of staying married
Using adopted children gives the reader an image -- very powerful.

I think his attempt is vain and he will falter, again.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:47 AM
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31. You mean the traditional religion that condemns adultery, Newt?
That traditional religion? Indeed, why bother to 'drive it out of existence' when you can just ignore the teachings that you don't agree with?
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