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Sun Nov-20-11 07:54 PM
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Remember when this armed teabag protester got peppersprayed and beaten by riot police? |
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Sun Nov-20-11 07:55 PM
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1. An armed protestor is a peper spray free protestor. n/t |
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Sun Nov-20-11 07:56 PM
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2. NO Man, You got the WRONG Teabagger. It was THIS guy they peppersprayed: |
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Sun Nov-20-11 07:59 PM
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3. I can see all of the riot police outside in their "Predator"-style invisibility armor |
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just waiting to leap through the windows and pepper-spray him. Yep, they're there, you just have to squint. Hundreds of 'em.
(facepalm) :hi:
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:36 PM
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7. Surely Starbucks threatens him n/t |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:06 PM
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don't get PEACE. All they understand is violence, death, and destruction.
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:34 PM
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5. Did they break any laws? n/t |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:36 PM
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6. Did peaceful protestors in a public park? n/t |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:42 PM
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8. Weren't they asked to vacate the park? n/t |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:44 PM
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10. Why didn't the teabaggers get asked to "vacate" as well? Hmmm? n/t |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:49 PM
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12. They didn't set up tent cities in the park for weeks for one thing.. |
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Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 08:58 PM by doc03
As far as the Teabaggers you never answered the question, just what law were they breaking? It is not illegal to carry a firearm. I am not saying it was OK to pepper spray the protesters but they did break the law where the Teabaggers were careful not to cross that line. So they are two completely different situations. As far as I know they got the permits to hold their demonstrations. They disrupted public Democratic town hall meetings by scattering supporters around the crowd and asking questions Democrats don't want to answer, no laws were broken..
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:56 PM
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15. Does not following the lame CITY rules, in order to fully apply Constitutional rights |
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rights in a time of extreme grievance, actually justify any of what is seen in these pictures, and the video link? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2352254
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Sun Nov-20-11 10:21 PM
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18. I've said it before: how does a local ordinance trump a Constitutional right? |
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If corporations are people and have free speech rights to spend as much money as they like in support of candidates, then how are not people peaceably demonstrating exercising their Constitutional right as well? If one is protected then the other must be as well.
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Sun Nov-20-11 11:15 PM
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20. So by your reasoning, the police can't do anything if protestors decide... |
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to put up permanent barricades in the middle of Broadway? Because why should local traffic laws get in the way of the right to free speech?
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Mon Nov-21-11 09:50 AM
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24. So does a local ordinance trump the 2nd Amendment? |
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isn't armed Tea Baggers the issue here?
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Mon Nov-21-11 09:52 AM
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25. Every one of your Constitutional rights has limits on it |
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there are reams of case law on the matter - every Constitutional case that goes to the Supreme Court involves defining the boundaries of the Constitution.
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Mon Nov-21-11 10:06 AM
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28. Especially the 3d amendment |
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Mon Nov-21-11 10:51 AM
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29. Ok - with one exception. nt |
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Sun Nov-20-11 11:10 PM
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19. Defending armed teabaggers? Around here? |
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Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 11:11 PM by Brigid
Really?
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Mon Nov-21-11 09:54 AM
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26. No - defending the rule of law |
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if the Tea Baggers broke no laws why should the police attack them?
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Mon Nov-21-11 04:06 PM
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31. You are OK with cops in riot gear . . . |
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Attacking peaceful protesters with pepper spray, batons, and rubber bullets? One guy had his spleen ruptured. Another had to be hospitalized too. People in wheel chairs have been pepper sprayed. One elderly woman had to be hospitalized with respiratory problems a few days after receiving a dose of that stuff. One guy had his skull fractured by a rubber bullet. And we've all seen the horror of what happened at UC Davis. I still can't believe that didn't spark an all-out riot, but it didn't, no thanks to the cops. Somebody is going to get killed; it is nothing short of a miracle that it hasn't happenedd yet. Weapons on the side of the protesters: zero. So all of this brutality completely unwarranted. And you want to pontificate about insurance and permits? Give me a break.
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Mon Nov-21-11 04:28 PM
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32. No - why would you get that idea? |
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the poster you accused of defending the Tea Baggers had a valid point. Pointing out that the TP did things completely differently then OWS and broke no laws is a long way from "supporting the Tea Baggers". It is even a longer distance from "violently attacking OWS is ok with me".
You need to tone down the personal attacks - they put you in a bad light.
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:43 PM
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9. Yup, was just discussing that with my sister |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:45 PM
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... the Tea Party utilized things like property use permits and insurance coverage in case of damage. Not the sort of things that OWS is interested in.
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:51 PM
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13. +1 They also disrupted the public town hall meetings, but didn't |
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Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 08:52 PM by doc03
break any laws in the process.
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:30 PM
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16. I have an experiment for the brave; show up at any Occupy event with any legal firearm. |
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See how long you are ambulatory.
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Sun Nov-20-11 11:17 PM
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21. No such thing in NYC... |
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Gun permits are rare, and carry permits even rarer, whether you're a Republican or Democrat.
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Mon Nov-21-11 09:20 AM
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23. That is my point try it only where it is legal. |
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For those in New York get a green squirt gun see how long you last! Not a risk I would take.
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Mon Nov-21-11 02:52 PM
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30. But there are dozens of other states that are. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry_in_the_United_StatesBut I still wouldn't try it. I suspect getting pepper sprayed would be the least that would happen to you.
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Mon Nov-21-11 12:19 AM
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22. We get tasered when we do that. |
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Try another tactic, that one fails.
Your usual kneejerk defense of anything with a badge is noted, though.
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:54 PM
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14. Well I can see why they were pepper-sprayed & had guns jammed in their backs now. |
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They didn't have the proper permits and insurance, and this is America, after all. No permits = riot geared police response.
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Mon Nov-21-11 10:03 AM
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27. Koch-funded, Astroturf "protests" always make sure to follow rules |
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for the purpose of tax-deductible image advertising.
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:31 PM
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17. Ah, he was an "activist". Totally different. |
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Didn't Faux News tell you???
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Mon Nov-21-11 04:30 PM
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33. Lots of cop enablers here. |
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"They should be armed to the teeth and pepper spray, tase, mace and beat protesters."
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