Super Committee has succeeded--it has not failed.

[CoffeeCat]

Does anyone actually believe that this "Super Committee" was formed to make real change?

Oh please.

Our elected leaders work for the corporations, not for us. Everything they do is for the
express purpose of benefiting the corporations or getting themselves re-elected.

Does anyone wonder why this "Super Committee" was formed and was charged with crafting a
plan of cuts/taxes--and why this duty wasn't given to Congress as a whole? Why not just
have votes on individual issues--such as rescinding the Bush tax cuts or cutting specific
welfare programs?

The reason is this. There's an election around the corner, and these charlatans and actors
know that they haven't been serving us. In fact, they know they've been serving the corporations
and bungling nearly everything they touch. So, how do they get people to the polls to vote for
them?

They whip up both sides into an angry lather--by having plenty of white-hot, divisive fodder directed
at the opposing side.

Democrats will be enraged that the Bush tax cuts can't be rescinded during a time of great economic
crisis when the rich aren't paying their fair share. Conversely, Republicans will argue that Democrats
wouldn't cut wasteful spending, during a time when the deficit is soaring and our nation is bankrupt.

Bingo. You've got your hate. Your fear. Your bashing. All directed at the "other side" which deflects
from the truth--that our elected representatives work for the corporations--not us.

And guess what--all of those Congress Critters who were up for re-election are perfectly positioned
to criticize and be enraged---because THEY WEREN'T ON THE SUPER COMMITTEE! THEY AREN'T TO BLAME!
They can wax poetic about how government doesn't work--and blah, blah, blah--as if they are not
part of the problem--because, well geez, they weren't on the Super Committee.

It's almost magical!

Truth is--these bastards will never rescind the Bush tax cuts because the corporations and the rich
won't have it. Democrats and Republicans serve their corporate masters who won't take a tax hike.
.
Another hard truth--both Republicans and Democrats don't give one whit about "out of control
spending" and the deficit. These same fools who have their hair on fire about the deficit
also waged unnecessary, perennial war on the Middle each--which costs us trillions in defense
spending--with no end in sight. Give me a break on the "We must be fiscally responsible" baloney--when
you're bankrupting our country with war; and also exorbitant tax breaks for wealthy corporations that
PAY NOTHING while making billions in profits.

It's a joke. It's a shame. But guess what...it's all for US! Because the only way these
criminals in Congress can continue to serve their corporate masters and keep their power--is by
playing Congressional dinner theater to us--by using anger and fear.

So, instead of the upcoming elections being about jobs (because they've done squat), or alternative
energy (because they've done squat and serve the oil companies), or healthcare costs (because they've
done squat because they are owned by the health-insurance magnates) or education (because they've
done squat--except for declaring pizza a vegetable), or helping people who have had their homes
illegally foreclosed upon (because they've done squat because the banks own them)-----they'll
simply throw up a partisan smokescreen of partisan nonsense.

Super Committee = Super Drama.

To our elected representatives, who are in on the big joke on the American people--the Super Committee's pre-planned
"failure" is indeed a success--because that failure is exactly as these liars and snake-oil salesman planned.

[jtown1123]

1. So you wanted the supercommittee to cut entitlements? A failure is the best scenario

for Democrats. The GOP will just overturn the sequester anyways...

[CoffeeCat]

3. The point is...

...that a lack of Super-Committee success means that both sides of the aisle will be able to stoke fear and anger
into their voting base. This is what will get them to the polls.

The divisive rhetoric also deflects from the real problem--that Congress is a gaggle of corrupt
sociopaths who serve corporations and not "We The People".

Obviously, I do not want entitlement cuts. But that has nothing to do with this.

This post was about the entire Super Committee being a sham--that was intentionally failed--in
order to keep Americans focused on hating "the other side" instead of focusing on the failures
of our elected leaders and their allegiances to the corporations.

[Robb]

7. Do you remember who originally proposed the supercommittee?

[CoffeeCat]

10. I thought the Super Committee..

...was hatched after the last budget impasse.

I don't know specifically WHO proposed the Super Committee, but I'm all ears.

In my opinion, I don't think "who" matters, but I'm listening and am opened to
being enlightened by new information.

[jtown1123]

22. It was. But it stemmed from Obama's Fiscal Commission folks. That's where it came from n/t

[Mira]

2. The truth - and very well presemted and argued. Recommended. n/t

[Zorra]

4. Nice catch! It's Act 3 of Kabuki Theater's "History's Greatest Con" play

starring all the usual suspects.

[Aerows]

5. The biggest thing Congress has accomplished

Is voting to affirm "In God We Trust" as our national motto (not that anyone had brought up changing it) and voting on whether or not to declare pizza a vegetable in public schools.

If that doesn't clearly illustrate how dysfunctional Congress has become, I don't know what does. A class of third graders could do better. The people who come up with this crap should be laughed off the floor, and the rest of them should just stop participating in such bs debates. I blame anyone who takes part in such ridiculous theater as the problem.

It's like debating the names of a damn post office while the debt ceiling was about to let our nation go into default.

[DCKit]

18. They've also managed to greatly enrich themselves while the rest of US suffer.

When you know where the Federal dollars are going to be spent and you've exempted yourself from insider trading laws, it's easy to make a killing in the markets.

[Journeyman]

6. ". . . Congressional dinner theater . . ."

A well-reasoned take on the sham we have for "representational democracy." Quite apt, too, given that Congress will sequester what the Corpos don't want done, so even the "draconian automatic cuts" prove to be nothing more than mock theater. Unfortunately, I suspect the "automatic slashes" to the social safety net may be implemented while the defense cuts are blocked, but it's all part of the show. "There was nothing we could do!" will be their plaintive cry. "It was all in the script."

K&R. . .

[pnwest]

8. they have three workable days left, and they are already stating

that they've "failed". I mean, hell, they have travel plans to get to fer chrissakes. Why let a little governing get in the way of that?

I soooo agree the whole thing was designed to fail. The "automatic" measures that will be triggered weren't automatic before they came up with this bullshit idea. They NEGOTIATED these automatic triggers! I'm just incensed and insulted that these fucks think believe we are too stupid to see what they've done. And I'm just sad. Sad, and tired that they can totally get away with it. Right under our noses.

[CoffeeCat]

11. I agree...

...about the automatic cuts that will happen if they fail.

Those drastic cuts create the illusion that our own elected representatives didn't want those
cuts or have anything to do with what MY representative did or didn't do.

It's legislation without any responsibility or accountability.

No one can attach any name or names to the cuts. And all of them can throw up their
hands and say, "I'm frustrated like you are! Isn't it awful! Vote for me and I'll
try to change it all."

Of course that's all a bunch of gobbledeegook.

[pnwest]

12. hm. what i didnt put together until watching Prez speak just now,

is that they CAN pre-empt the automatic cuts by actually coming up with a bill. He's promised to veto any attempt to remove the auto cuts, and this now looks like another brilliant Obama chess move. He's increased the pressure on R's to give an inch on taxes, and left them an opportunity to do so.

[politicasista]

15. Hopefully, he will rally behind those six Dems

aka his allies who are taking heat for the Super Committee failures and are getting slammed with hateful comments and threats on their Facebook pages.

[pnwest]

13. hm. what i didnt put together until watching Prez speak just now,

is that they CAN pre-empt the automatic cuts by actually coming up with a bill. He's promised to veto any attempt to remove the auto cuts, and this now looks like another brilliant Obama chess move. He's increased the pressure on R's to give an inch on taxes, and left them an opportunity to do so.

[Generic Other]

16. They need to quit playing games

NOW.

[pnwest]

17. totally. absolutely.

[pansypoo53219]

9. BULL SHIT

THE BUSH TAX CUTS MUST DIE!

[woo me with science]

14. You are absolutely right.

And now people are cheering that Obama has vowed to stand firm on the trigger mandate, as though that means that we will get the 50 percent in military cuts that are part of the trigger.

What he promised is that deep spending cuts will still be made in the worst economy since the Depression, something that over 300 economists warned him about to begin with.

He did not say that the cuts would have to include the 50 percent in Defense cuts that are mandated by the current trigger. In fact, he specifically pointed out that there is a full year before this has to take effect and plenty of time to "find" money before the deadline.

They will not have to account for any of cuts they approve until AFTER the 2012 election.

Anyone who thinks the MIC will not be protected is welcome to buy this bridge I have...

[Fire Walk With Me]

19. How cynical...and true :)

:thumbsup:

[CoffeeCat]

23. It's kind of a double-edged sword, isn't it?

I hate these horrible scenarios, but the only alternative is denial.

It's tough to avoid cynicism when you're dealing with this reality!

:)

[eridani]

20. That does NOT mean that SocSec, Medicare and Medicaid are safe n/t

[lonestarnot]

21. It served only corporate TV box ratings and nobody gave a fuck so yeah failed there too.

:)

[CoffeeCat]

24. I'm growing a little weary of these Congresssional...

...dramas.

OWS is beginning to make our government seem irrelevant. We all know that
Congress serves their corporate masters. They sprinkle in these drama games
every once in a while to keep the facade alive and well. However, there's
never any meaningful change that makes a difference.

Our country and our economy has only slid down the hill during the past decade.

I think people are tuning out because they know our government is full of it.