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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:27 PM
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Here’s what attempted co-option of OWS looks like. (SEIU and OWS)
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 12:34 PM by woo me with science
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/19/heres_what_attempted_co_option_of_ows_looks_like/


Here’s what attempted co-option of OWS looks like
By Glenn Greenwald

(updated below)

The 2012 election is almost a full year away and nobody knows who is running against President Obama, but that didn’t stop Mary Kay Henry, the D.C.-based National President of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), from announcing last week that her organization endorses President Obama for re-election. That’s not surprising — while many unions have exhibited political independence, SEIU officials have long been among Obama’s closest and most loyal allies in Washington — but what was notable here was how brazenly Henry exploited the language of the Occupy movement to justify her endorsement of the Democratic Party leader: “We need a leader willing to fight for the needs of the 99 percent . . . .Our economy and democracy have been taken over by the wealthiest one percent.”

But now SEIU’s effort to convert and degrade the Occupy movement into what SEIU’s national leadership is — a loyal arm of the DNC and the Obama White House — has become even more overt, as Greg Sargent reports today:


(see article at link for multi-paragraph quote)

Having SEIU officials — fresh off endorsing the Obama re-election campaign — shape, fund, dictate and decree an anti-GOP, pro-Obama march is about as antithetical as one can imagine to what the Occupy movement has been. And pretending that the ongoing protests are grounded in the belief that the GOP is the party of the rich while the Democrats are the party of the working class is likely to fool just about nobody other than those fooled by that already. The strength and genius of OWS has been its steadfast refusal to (a) fall into the trap that ensnared the Tea Party of being exploited as a partisan tool and (b) integrate itself into the very political institutions which it’s scorning and protesting.

As I noted several weeks ago, WH-aligned groups such as the Center for American Progress have made explicitly clear that they are going to try to convert OWS into a vote-producing arm for the Obama 2012 campaign, and that’s what “Occupy Congress” is designed to achieve. I believed then and — having spent the last few weeks talking with many OWS protesters around the country — believe even more so now that these efforts will inevitably fail: those who have animated the Occupy movement are not motivated by partisan allegiance or an overarching desire to devote themselves to one of the two parties. In fact, one of the original Occupy groups — as opposed to partisan organizations swooping in to exploit it — has announced its own D.C. occupation to, in part, “demonstrate the failure of the Democrats and Republicans in Congress to represent the views of the majority of people.”

(more at link)

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OWS has so far been very smart about resisting attempts at co-option by DNC types or any other group. Their task will become more difficult as this election approaches.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:35 PM
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1. Yes, the SEIU is EVIL incarnate.
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 12:36 PM by emulatorloo
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:41 PM
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4. You evade the point entirely,
as the DNC would have you do:

"The strength and genius of OWS has been its steadfast refusal to (a) fall into the trap that ensnared the Tea Party of being exploited as a partisan tool and (b) integrate itself into the very political institutions which it’s scorning and protesting."
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:44 PM
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6. So anyone deemed "partisan" is excluded from the 99%? Then what percent are we?
We... Are... The 74 Percent!!

Doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

:rofl:

NGU.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:44 PM
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7. I get your "point" perfectly. So do the next two posters.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:23 PM
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18. OWS is already viewed as "left." To suggest otherwise is whistling in the dark.
The average person perceives OWS as the rowdier and more vibrant counterpoint to the Tea Party.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:38 PM
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2. So, you can't be a Democrat and a supporter of OWS goals?
Because, if you want to put up a firewall between OWS and Democrats, I have no idea how the message gets translated into positive legislative change.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:42 PM
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5. The point is that OWS needs to be very careful about being co-opted.
You do not see "Obama 2012" signs at these rallies for a very good reason.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:48 PM
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10. OWS can take care of itself.
Maybe you should take your own advice and stop trying to co-opt OWS in order to smear unions and Democrats.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:52 PM
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12. Big rec on that one!
Well said.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:24 PM
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19. Whoop--there it is! +1!!!! nt
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:31 PM
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21. !!!
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 06:07 PM
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24. ...
:thumbsup:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:22 PM
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17. How about answering my question?
Can you be a voting Democrat and still support the stated goals of OWS? I say yes...and we should be encouraging all Democrats to amplify this message in Congress. Because if the point is to have a "OWS clubhouse - members only"...good luck with getting any meaningful change.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:47 PM
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9. Here's the thing
If you are out marching and actively taking part in supporting OWS, you are a supporter of OWS. If you come in, two months later and try to take credit for OWS's message while you sat in your office and ignored them until they got enough popular support and then try to claim you've supported them all along? You look like an opportunist and deserve all the scorn heaped upon you for it.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:49 PM
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11. Ahh, so there's a time limit for support?
NGU.

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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:53 PM
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13. The quoted statement was not an affirmation of support for OWS..
It was a co-option of OWS language in order to try to suck support from the movement for a candidate who has taken no direct steps to support the movement at all.

There is a difference.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:55 PM
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14. So opinion leaders shouldn't adopt "OWS language?" I thought that was the point.
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 01:01 PM by ClassWarrior
:crazy:

NGU.

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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:32 PM
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22. That's not what I'm saying
I'm saying if you are a politician using OWS-type language and preaching that you have supported it from the beginning but haven't even mentioned it up until now, you look like an opportunist.

Anyone that wants to start spreading the message and helping the movement, more power to them. More people are joining every day, and it's a great thing.

Frankly, I'm much more disturbed by the fact that very few politicians have said a word about the police brutality against protesters. You would think that would be something a politician would be all over.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 06:00 PM
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23. LOL... Now you're changing the subject. Of course if someone lies about his or her support for...
...anything, he or she looks like an opportunist. Politician or not.

And I agree about the police brutality, but that wasn't the topic at hand. :shrug:

NGU.

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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:39 PM
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3. Yeah, unions and democrats are the bad guys. nt
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:44 PM
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8. Politicians ALWAYS try to co opt anything that gets them attention
It's pretty much the way politics works. Many people, however, are aware that OWS crosses the political spectra.

I pretty much say woe be to any politician who attempts to pretend they are on the side of OWS unless they are marching in the streets with them. A New York City council member did and got arrested. He's certainly capable of saying he supports OWS.

People in Washington who haven't stepped foot to a demonstration but try to claim credit? I hope they get heaped with scorn regardless of their political affiliation.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:57 PM
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15. They are already.
I have seen this piece reposted on several OWS supporters' sites already, with plenty of scorn leveled at the attempts at co-option.

I have been impressed as hell by the savvy of the OWS organizers. Just like successful small banks or corporations quickly get swallowed up by the big ones, it is very difficult in this environment for any burgeoning political movement to resist co-option by the corporate Powers That Be.

So far, OWS is succeeding.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:01 PM
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16. Yes, the SEIU is the epitome of the "corporate powers that be"
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:29 PM
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20. sorry Greenwald but the tea party has always been a partisan tool, NEVER independent nt
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