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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:31 PM
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Wow. Queen Sarah Scatterbrain goes all OWS in a WSJ editorial.
No more sweetheart land deals with campaign contributors. No gifts of IPO shares. No trading of stocks related to committee assignments. No earmarks where the congressman receives a direct benefit. No accepting campaign contributions while Congress is in session. No lobbyists as family members, and no transitioning into a lobbying career after leaving office. No more revolving door, ever.

This call for real reform must transcend political parties. The grass-roots movements of the right and the left should embrace this. The tea party's mission has always been opposition to waste and crony capitalism, and the Occupy protesters must realize that Washington politicians have been "Occupying Wall Street" long before anyone pitched a tent in Zuccotti Park.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204323904577040373463191222.html

I am more than a little bit stunned.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:33 PM
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1. Why? She is trying to stay in the game, that's all.
IT's all about her, it's always been about her and she'll hitch her wagon to whatever may give her publicity.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:33 PM
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2. I don't trust her. She has an agenda, I just don't know what it is yet
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:59 PM
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12. Totally agreed, but
what is important about this is that most of the Tea Party listens to her. And here she is telling them that the OWS folks are *not* their natural enemies but that in fact they share some important attributes as populist movements at this point in history. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come? The 99% and the Tea Party realizing they're not such strange bedfellows after all... the .1% should be quite fearful of this.

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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:35 PM
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3. Whoever wrote that for her has a few good ideas there.
:thumbsup:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:38 PM
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4. Agreed. Sarah Palin doesn't think or talk like that. She could not possibly
write like that. My guess is that she hired someone to write for her. I wonder if she even understands what was written in her name.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:58 PM
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42. yeah. Five years of J-School ruined her Prose ability
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 11:40 PM
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53. They know she could not possibly write this. Not at all. Why do they publish it?
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:41 PM
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5. même un cochon aveugle trouve un gland de temps en temps
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:48 PM
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6. Next thing you know, she'll claim it was all her idea. Of COURSE she wants
to throw 'em all out--especially the Dems--and replace 'em with people like her, with her in a prominent position.

There is nothing that woman has ever done in her life that hasn't been self-serving. You betcha!
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:48 PM
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7. If she wrote that, I wrote War and Peace!
It was an excellent article but there is NO CHANCE IN HELL that Ms Word Salad could string together enough coherent sentences to get through even the first paragraph.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:50 PM
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8. She's just trying to claw her way back to relevance-- and speaking/appearance fees. n/t
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:51 PM
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9. I thought she was just "Sarah, Duchess of Dork".
When did she accede to the throne?
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:51 PM
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10. Ummm, sister Sarah cashed in on her failed run as did her daughter....
NOW she calls for reforms? Did she include a no-no for accepting designer duds and makeovers as well?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:53 PM
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11. Obviously, Sarah Palin 2.0
Someone's got a new writer that wants to reinvent Sarah in the OWS message.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:02 PM
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13. The grifter must be running out of right wing marks. nt
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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:02 PM
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14. Sarah raised taxes on oil companies as gov of Alaska
apparently her brain is still firing up every now and then which is why she was an unacceptable candidate for the republican party.

Also Koch hates her. He lobbied her to reduce his taxes on Alaskan refineries which they own or some such and she said no.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:04 PM
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15. she didnt write that, the writing style is completely different than
how she speaks and writes.....you can not place her voice in the reading
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:15 PM
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20. Rebecca Mansour has been her ghostwriter most of the time.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:05 PM
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16. Have to hand it to the RW WSJ
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 01:08 PM by ProSense
they can package anything and make it seem populist, including an anti-government angle that protects Republicans and the rich.

Mark Twain famously wrote, "There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress." Peter Schweizer's new book, "Throw Them All Out," reveals this permanent political class in all its arrogant glory. (Full disclosure: Mr. Schweizer is employed by my political action committee as a foreign-policy adviser.)

Mr. Schweizer answers the questions so many of us have asked. I addressed this in a speech in Iowa last Labor Day weekend. How do politicians who arrive in Washington, D.C. as men and women of modest means leave as millionaires? How do they miraculously accumulate wealth at a rate faster than the rest of us? How do politicians' stock portfolios outperform even the best hedge-fund managers'? I answered the question in that speech: Politicians derive power from the authority of their office and their access to our tax dollars, and they use that power to enrich and shield themselves.

<...>

This isn't about OWS, it's about pushing bogus insider trading claims (see the Breitbart story pushing Schweizer) aimed at Democrats.

If Palin and the RW are really concerned about inequality and crony capitalism, they could start by pushing to end loopholes for the oil companies and tax breaks for the rich.

You know, the President's proposal.



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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:07 PM
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17. So that is her agenda. thanks
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:14 PM
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19. What
Palin, Republicans, WSJ and the entire RW thrive on: There is a sucker born every minute.

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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:18 PM
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22. Congress HAS been illegally insider trading- BOTH sides- we should not overlook it
They should be held accountable.

Now Sarah actually says it her writing that congressional insider trading IS legal, but she is wrong.

No, It Is NOT “Legal” For Congress To Insider-Trade — The SEC Should Launch Investigation Immediately
http://www.businessinsider.com/congress-insider-trading-investigation-2011-11#ixzz1dnmcxjaG
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:23 PM
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27. Ah
Congress HAS been illegally insider trading- BOTH sides- we should not overlook it

They should be held accountable.

Now Sarah actually says it her writing that congressional insider trading IS legal, but she is wrong.

...bullshit!

When Palin and the WSJ calls for a full investigation of Bachus, Boehner and Cantor, the accountability will begin.

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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:47 PM
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35. This is a quote- she thinks it is legal
"Astonishingly, none of this is technically illegal, at least not for Congress. Members of Congress exempt themselves from the laws they apply to the rest of us."



Why does anyone think this IS legal?

There is no exemption written anywhere that allows insider trading for Congress. Both side have been caught doing it.

I don't believe in protecting criminals, even if they are 'our' criminals.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:56 PM
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40. This
"Astonishingly, none of this is technically illegal, at least not for Congress. Members of Congress exempt themselves from the laws they apply to the rest of us."

...is bullshit! Again, this op-ed is anti-government drivel designed to protect Republicans and the rich.



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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 02:10 PM
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47. we agree this is bullshit- that's why I posted it
Insider Trading is Illegal.

And if you haven't noticed, Congress HAS been doing all the things she mentioned.

Anti gov drivel? Have you seen Congressional approval ratings? they are lower than communism, the IRS...

The very idea of insider trading....they are making money screwing us over with their votes? This doesn't make you angry?



But whatever, I have no interest in sticking up for Sarah...I DO have an interest in this movement succeeding which means we will have to reach out to those who do not agree with us on everything.

we must look for what we have in common.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 02:13 PM
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48. Well
we agree this is bullshit- that's why I posted it
Insider Trading is Illegal.

And if you haven't noticed, Congress HAS been doing all the things she mentioned.

Anti gov drivel? Have you seen Congressional approval ratings? they are lower than communism, the IRS...

The very idea of insider trading....they are making money screwing us over with their votes? This doesn't make you angry?

But whatever, I have no interest in sticking up for Sarah...I DO have an interest in this movement succeeding which means we will have to reach out to those who do not agree with us on everything.

...if you're not trying, it isn't evident, and yes it's anti-government drivel, and you are perpetuating false equivalencies.

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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:10 PM
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18. Notice that she doesn't even suggest tight government regulations over Wall Street and big business.

She's a free marketeer!
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:18 PM
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21. Ghost writer????
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:59 PM
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43. she had two for her books, and her tweets, why not?
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:18 PM
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23. Don't ge stunned -- they read the polls, that's all
They know that the public overwhelmingly supports the OWS.

So she's going to get right out there in front and pretend she's a leader.
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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:21 PM
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24. they ignore all the other polls, like the ones that say we want single payer, no war in Iraq(n) etc.
Limbaugh and beck hate hate HATE OWS....and now she comes out in support? How the hell are they going to spin that?
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:22 PM
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25. "tea party's mission has always been opposition to waste and crony capitalism"
I didn't read past that lie.

The tea party's mission has always been opposition to immigrants, social programs, and taxation.

I wonder how many suckers are going to lap this up just because someone who can write threw some OWS demands and some lies into a cup and turned it into a shit frappé.

Con artists always tell the mark what he wants to hear in order to separate him from his money.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:34 PM
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31. Evidently
it's not OK for Democrats and unions to co-opt OWS, but OK for Palin/WSJ to lie to do so.

"I wonder how many suckers are going to lap this up just because someone who can write threw some OWS demands and some lies into a cup and turned it into a shit frappé."

By "suckers," do you mean teabaggers and teabagger sympathizers?



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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:22 PM
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26. Holy SHIT! How ingenious?
Don't you get it? By associating herself with OWS, NOBODY would want to be a part of it and they would stop.

Sheer fuckin' genius.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:24 PM
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28. I know they have three guys occupying Fairbanks
Don't think I heard anything about her or Todd joining or forming an Occupy Wasilla.

Besides isn't it time for her to go kill a turkey?
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:24 PM
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29. She Who Exclaimed, "I'm governor, and I can do whatever I want until a judge stops me!"
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 01:24 PM by closeupready
Yeah, I am so sure you are all for integrity, Ms. Sarah "The World Revolves Around Me!" Palin.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:34 PM
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30. she's extending her 15 minutes
:puke: fuck off, tundra barbie.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:37 PM
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32. As I stated on the previous post about this,
Sarah is now trying to sound like she did when she was governor of Alaska. The reason she was so popular here was because she took on the old boys' club and the big oil companies. I guess she figured that other persona she was putting out there over the past three years wasn't working for her, so now she'll go back to the old one. Problem is she's lost all credibility now.
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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:41 PM
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33. This will help wake up some tea party people- this will make the movement stronger
I just don't get how people are upset about this.

Do you want to succeed? Or just be right all the time?

The people that use this to continue to divide just don't get it.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:46 PM
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34. Yeah,
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 01:46 PM by ProSense
This will help wake up some tea party people- this will make the movement stronger

I just don't get how people are upset about this.

Do you want to succeed? Or just be right all the time?

The people that use this to continue to divide just don't get it.

...the movement is dependent on Palin's WSJ op-ed to survive and grow. Ludicrous.




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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:51 PM
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36. Dependent upon, no. But should 'the movement' so aggressively shun these
potential new members? Just because we don't agree on everything doesn't mean we can't work together in areas on which we *do* agree.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:54 PM
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38. Well,
Dependent upon, no. But should 'the movement' so aggressively shun these

potential new members? Just because we don't agree on everything doesn't mean we can't work together in areas on which we *do* agree.

...if it means perpetuating lies, distortions and smears, no thanks.

Why on earth is Sarah Palin relevant to anything?







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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:55 PM
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39. I know! What part of 99% don't people understand here?
WE are going to have to work with people we don't always agree with.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:57 PM
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41. The part where racism comes in
that's the part the 99% who are sane disagrees with.
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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 02:06 PM
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45. what part of corporate controlled media don't people understand then?
the racist tea party people were featured for a reason, to divide and conquer

the origina tea party was formed against the bailouts, crony capitalism etc. then was corrupted by corporate controlled media- big surprise.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 02:10 PM
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46. Hmmm?
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 02:11 PM by ProSense
what part of corporate controlled media don't people understand then?
the racist tea party people were featured for a reason, to divide and conquer

the origina tea party was formed against the bailouts, crony capitalism etc. then was corrupted by corporate controlled media- big surprise.


So you're trying to resurrect the original tea party (not that I buy that charaterization) via Sarah Palin's op-ed in the WSJ?


What part of RW "corporate controlled media" don't you understand?

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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 02:14 PM
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49. I think you are wasting your time
and everyone else who cares deeply about this movement.
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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:52 PM
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37. of course not, but I have been listening to limbaugh/beck to see how the other side thinks
and she is still their goddess.

99% includes a lot of people, and some of them listen to Sarah Palin, probably the ones still sitting on the fence.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:59 PM
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44. Well,
of course not, but I have been listening to limbaugh/beck to see how the other side thinks
and she is still their goddess.

99% includes a lot of people, and some of them listen to Sarah Palin, probably the ones still sitting on the fence.

...there's the problem. The perspective of Limbaugh, Beck and their followers is just what the movement needs.

Point: OWS will grow in numbers regardless of what Palin or any other lunatic says.

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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 02:52 PM
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50. unfortunately, dittoheads listen to her. fortunately, she's
saying something for which their agreement will help the ows cause. not surprising that congress says it's immune. they aren't getting inside information, they are creating it. don't forget, scotus also gives itself immunity in some things, as did bushco.

ellen fl
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darth marth Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 08:00 PM
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51. As far as I heard, neither Limbaugh or Glenn Beck would talk about this today
She was their hero, but apparently they do not want to support the truth in what is written here at all.
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sibelian Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 08:19 PM
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52. Has Bobby Ewing turned up in the shower yet?

Has she finally thrown the One Ring into the fires of Mount Doom?

Yaaaaaawn
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mick063 Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 11:55 PM
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54. I agree with her.
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 11:58 PM by mick063
But there is much more that needs to be done beyond this topic.

I never was a Palin fan but I'm giving her credit where credit is do.

At some point folks have to build on common ground. At some point we have to start cooperating.

The former Vice Presidential nominee is gving lots of ground here and I salute her for it.

Her argument crosses party lines. A matter of right and wrong, not left and right.

We have to be able to recognize that.
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