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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:18 PM
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Pollsters call for Obama to step aside
Reviving an idea they floated last year with an op-ed urging President Obama not to seek a second term, pollsters Patrick H. Caddell and Douglas E. Schoen are out today with a new op-ed drafting Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to be the Democrats’ 2012 nominee.

Obama should “abandon his candidacy for re-election in favor of a clear alternative,” Caddell and Schoen wrote in Monday’s Wall Street Journal, because “the kind of campaign required for the president’s political survival would make it almost impossible for him to govern — not only during the campaign, but throughout a second term.”

“Never before has there been such an obvious potential successor — one who has been a loyal and effective member of the president’s administration, who has the stature to take on the office, and who is the only leader capable of uniting the country around a bipartisan economic and foreign policy,” they wrote of Clinton.

The two pollsters have worked for a number of high-profile Democrats — Caddell for George McGovern, Jimmy Carter and Joe Biden, and Schoen for President Bill Clinton and for Hillary Clinton in 2008. But they are also known for taking positions that are at odds with the Democratic Party.



Read more: http://midwestdemocracyproject.org/blogs/entries/pollsters-call-obama-step-aside/#comments#ixzz1eOZP4Zqo
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:20 PM
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1. Partisan, much?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:20 PM
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2. Message to pollsters: You're pollsters.
Bleep off.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:23 PM
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9. They're not pollsters, they're Fox News employees. nt
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:29 PM
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16. The job of pollster is not a reputatble profession
I would say being a bouncer in a strip club is a more reputable profession than being a pollster.
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:20 PM
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3. I can't even be bothered to locate the popcorn smiley. nt
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:24 PM
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10. I brought enough to share
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:24 PM
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11. Oh, thanks! :::CRUNCH:::
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:37 PM
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27. THANKS!
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:31 PM
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19. Don't bother trying...
It was all eaten durng the last gazillion times this was posted.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:54 PM
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31. No. You need this one.
:eyes:
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:21 PM
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4. So, this is not the Onion?
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:21 PM
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5. ".... positions that are at odds with the Democratic Party."
Like they are republicans?
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:22 PM
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6. Fox News. End of story.
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:22 PM
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7. Pat Cadell??? Give me a break! He calls himself a Dem but
he is the most Republican AH calling himself a Dem I have ever witnessed! PLEASE!!!!

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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:22 PM
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8. good lord, the bitter PUMAs are still around?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:25 PM
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12. FrenchieCat calls for Poster to step aside......
and stop spreading Fox News sponsored propaganda.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 10:46 PM
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36. +1...nt
Sid
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:25 PM
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13. Fox News' favorite "Democrat," Pat Caddell?
:eyes:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:26 PM
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14. Please don't post this
Caddell and Schoen have zero credibility.

I would listen to Mark Penn and Bob Shrum before those two bozos.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:27 PM
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15. What does this part mean?

Excerpt: " ... because “the kind of campaign required for the president’s political survival would make it almost impossible for him to govern — not only during the campaign, but throughout a second term."

What does campaigning in 2012 have anything to do with governing in the years 2013-2016 ???


Those two guys sound like two nuts that just haven't accepted the fact that Hillary lost and Obama won.

Using their logic it would mean that ALL presidents could only serve 'one term' because they'd have to be out campaigning if they wanted a second term - LOL !!!

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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:29 PM
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17. Spare us, please.
Geez.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:29 PM
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18. Ha ha! Patrick Caddell. I remember that loon. He lost his marbles years ago..
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 09:33 PM by Kahuna
:rofl:

If old pat and the rest of the pumas want to see Hillary elected they need to work their butts off to see that Obama gets his second term so she doesn't have to run against a repuke incumbent in 2016.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:33 PM
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:35 PM
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23. Caddell, is that you?
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 09:36 PM by FrenchieCat
:rofl:
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:37 PM
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26. Hmmmm !
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:42 PM
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28. Did you write that OP?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:34 PM
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21. Sounds like Republican desperation.
Polling must be shaping up to be a wipeout in 2012. I can't think of anything dumber than for Democrats to take a Fox News employee's suggestion seriously.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:37 PM
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25. Wouldn't you be desperate
If the current people they have were your choices? I don't know why they don't just give up right now, because there isn't a one of those clowns that is electable.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:35 PM
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22. Fox "News" Pollsters do NOT count.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:36 PM
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24. If I had the crop of candidates they have
I'd be trying to get Obama to step aside, too, since they only chance they have to win with one of the lame candidates they have is for nobody to run against them.

A turnip would be a better choice as the Republican nominee than what they currently have, and I find it absolutely delicious.
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:50 PM
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29. Anyone who did nto see this coming
was simply not looking.
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:51 PM
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30. also
what this is is a means to make sure the left is burned out. The fact OWS is around means this is weakeness to them, whereas Hillary and Bill would have squashed it.
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 10:07 PM
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32. 'Pat Caddell' says it all.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 10:09 PM
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33. Anybody here ever check for dupes?
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 10:16 PM by AtomicKitten
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 10:31 PM
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34. LAME.
Wasn't Pat Caddell a Clinton hater or is that my imagination? This is odd.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 10:33 PM
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35. Yawn. Has Pat Caddell ever backed a winner in his life?
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