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ashleyforachange Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 03:13 PM
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 03:18 PM
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1. What a bunch of moral cowards.
Thanks for the thread, ashleyforachange.
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ashleyforachange Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 04:33 PM
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13. Your welcome...
even though I am not from Tenn. I think its everyone's job to make sure that education be unbiased from political and religious opinions. It bad enough that much history is written by the winners and we never learn from the losers. I think that if they want to go teach their children this bull crap then they need to home school them.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 03:19 PM
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2. picture of Hal Rounds
Fayette County attorney Hal Rounds believes that history books are not being honest, and wants falsities to be removed such as any examples of “the founders intruding on the Indians or having slaves or being hypocrites in one way or another.”

http://www.constitutionrefresher.com/hal-rounds

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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 03:24 PM
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6. The flag and what it is suppose to stand for
imo is such bullshit that it makes me want to :puke:

So how far will this racism go? Will the books be 'sanitized?' :mad:
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 03:21 PM
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3. Right. They
"brought liberty into a world where it hadn’t existed, to everybody."

Including the Natives of this country and the kidnapped Africans.:rofl:
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TNDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 03:22 PM
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4. They must not be making much of an impact
since I live in TN and haven't heard a word about it in the news. Oy, the loud goofballs that live here but thankfully there are lots of great liberal types, just not over 50%.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 03:24 PM
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5. tennessee has gone down the tubes...it's red, red, red, red and getting redder
i know, i live here
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 03:25 PM
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7. Apparent racism aside
They're channeling Lynne Cheney's desire to revise American history so it's all pink and shiny.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 03:32 PM
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8. Hmmm..how does one become "a former Vietnam War veteran?"
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 03:33 PM by Glorfindel
The man's ideas are beneath contempt and his fashion sense is downright alarming, but (alas!) once a veteran, always a veteran. It isn't a curable condition, like middle-aged virginity. O8)
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 03:44 PM
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9. In Tennessee and know my local school board rep well
Just fired off an email to her to ask what we can do to counteract these nuts.

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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 04:13 PM
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10. ...and she responds...
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 04:13 PM by Kalyke
Hmm. I hadn't heard about this latest development. I hope it doesn't go anywhere. They made fools of themselves in TX by trying to get politicians to re-write history books. I'd suggest contacting your representatives to express your concerns. Rather than debate the merits only, it may be most effective to say, let the professional historians and educators do their job, and don't try to micro-manage things from Nashville.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.



So, I guess, fellow Tennesseans, we need to get on the horns to our state reps (mine's a Dem) and ask them what they're doing to stop this garbage. I like my school board member's approach - don't debate the merits, just let the historians work in peace.
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ashleyforachange Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 04:26 PM
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11. I graduated from TX education in 2007...
I am glad y'all are taking a stand. Just know as a person who graduated from TX education in 2007 that its not right to have people who know nothing tell people who are educating our future what to teach. It was annoying when we read from textbooks and it was OBVIOUS that it was a right wing leaning textbook.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 04:28 PM
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12. Yet again with the "republic, not a democracy" rhetoric. They're sooo predictable.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 04:41 PM
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14. This myth about "republic not democracy" makes for endless stupidity.
What are the first three words in the Constitution?!

And these idiots want to emphasize the Founding Fathers but not actually talk about them, since that would involve describing who they were and what they did (like owning slaves, being secular deists who hated churches, having sex with French women in Paris, believing in the separation of church and state, killing each other in duels, etc. etc.).

Let's just cancel history altogether!
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ashleyforachange Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 04:54 PM
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15. I think they need to go....
watch Bill Maher segment from last Friday again. Because in honest if the founding fathers were around the Tea Party would be Tar and feathered on the spot.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 01:29 PM
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19. French women weren't the only women
the slave owning Founding Fathers had sex with.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 02:21 PM
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20. Very true. I was just picking some random examples...
of how the so-called "Founding Fathers" don't remotely fit the image the yahoos have had of them ever since.

For starters, they don't even exist. You had the Signatories of 1776, the Federalists (or Framers) of 1786-87, and the grab-bag anti-Federalists who opposed the new constitution and at least got the Bill of Rights. Three almost completely different groups, two of them in clear opposition, and at least Jefferson, one of the most iconic "Founders" and the author of the 1776 declaration, was on the balance against the 1787 constitution.

And of course the Federalists bearing little relation to the real People of the time (though willing to call themselves We the People, thankfully since at least that opened the way to reinterpreting their document to mean the people, not just the rich white owners of land and slaves).
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 07:27 PM
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16. IMO it's time to start pre-organizing boycotts of FedEx, every TN convention center
and hotel, and every other business in that state. Let them know the consequences of such racist folly in advance1
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 07:32 PM
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17. It's a "falsity" that many of the Founding Fathers owned slaves?
:wtf:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 07:34 PM
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18. They should put the Klan robes on and get it over with.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 07:55 PM
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21. Kicked&Recommended...
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