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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:34 PM
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Wisconsin: Know of someone destroying petitions? $10,000 Reward!
In my email from Scot Ross of One Wisconsin Now...


http://www.onewisconsinnow.org/


Dear Scuba,

You have asked us repeatedly about the allegations going on related to recall petition destruction -- and here’s what we’re doing about it.

We have created a $10,000 Reward Fund to combat allegations of illegal recall petition destruction.

The fund, which we are announcing at a press conference at the state capitol momentarily, is being established to stop any illegal destruction of signature petitions in the recalls of Gov. Scott Walker and Rebecca Kleefisch.


http://www.onewisconsinnow.org/files/One%20Wisconsin%20Now%20Establishes%20%2410%2C000%20Reward%20Fund%20to%20Combat%20Recall%20Petition%20Attacks.pdf


We do not want to have to spend this money, but we believe there is too much at stake to simply leave allegations of illegal recall signature destruction to go unanswered. We hope you ensure we have the resources to continue this critical work.

The fraudulent destruction or defacement of a recall petition is in violation of Wis. Stat. § 12.13(3)(a) and, as the Government Accountability Board has recently made clear, a Class I felony.

We cannot allow democracy to be threatened by those who would illegally destroy recall petitions with valid signatures on them.

We intend to keep you and the public informed about your rights during the signature gathering process and alert those who would engage in illegal conduct that they do so at their own peril.

Please support our effort for a fair and clean signature gathering effort. In the event no one becomes eligible for the reward funds, we will use any support for this effort to combat voter suppression.

The integrity of our elections is too important for us to sit back and do nothing.

Thank you for everything you do--

PS: To see the terms of the Reward Fund, please click here for all of the necessary information. Please contact us with any questions you have.


http://www.onewisconsinnow.org/files/One%20Wisconsin%20Now%20Establishes%20%2410%2C000%20Reward%20Fund%20to%20Combat%20Recall%20Petition%20Attacks.pdf
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:40 PM
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1. I always have been and always will be 100% for the death penalty for
Edited on Tue Nov-22-11 12:41 PM by Drale
anyone who interferes with democracy. Prison is not harsh enough for these people, and unless they are locked up forever they will go right back to trying to subvert democracy after they get out. Trying to kill democracy is the single worst crime in my mind, even more heinous than murder.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 01:09 PM
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7. That would put many heads on the block.
Ken Blackwell would be at the top.

A bunch of public executions would certainly help keep election fraud to a minimum. It's certainly a thought, but if these traitors won't even be prosecuted by their own attorneys general, what's the point of any law?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:40 PM
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2. I just recced your post.
Now go find mine, posting the same email, & rec it back. :toast:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2362734
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:43 PM
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4. Done. Sorry, I missed your earlier post. n/t
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:49 PM
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6. De nada.
Macht nichts.

Amnd here's another K 4 U
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:43 PM
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5. Then kick yours
nt.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:42 PM
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3. I'll kick this
:kick:
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karnac Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 04:37 PM
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8. Would NOT turning in signed petitions be illegal?
What I mean is that one doesn't actually have to *destroy* a petition to make the petition invalid.

They can place themselves in front of a supermarket, or their paid signature gatherer, collect signatures and simply not turn it in in time. Or at all. OR fail to sign and certify. No signing by the circulator, no crime right?

I've been reading the statute in question, and if this was a BALLOT and not a mere petition, the legal protections are very adequately in place. But not so much for a recall petition.

Or am I wrong?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 09:08 PM
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9. k & r
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 09:11 PM
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10. I heard there had been death threats against petition gatherers
Any validity to that? I probably heard it on one of the M$M as a passing mention, but frankly I don't remember where it was.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:02 AM
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11. Yes, there is. A RW nutjob named Kevin Binversie wrote on his blog...
... something about using the "castle doctrine" on any petitioner who came to his door. Then he even tried to defend his little "joke".

Here's more...




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2354567
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 01:32 PM
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13. Thanks! I'm never sure if I can trust what the M$M gives us as news
But I know reports will be picked apart here if they are not true.
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karnac Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 12:04 PM
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12. This is probably a Hoax
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 12:43 PM by karnac
Here is the actual reporting on the petition destruction thing. by the original breaking reporter.

http://caledonia.patch.com/articles/pro-recall-group-outs-facebook-page-that-boasts-about-destroying-signatures

I am convinced that this "Operation Burn Notice" is an elaborate hoax on par with a "ONION" parody. If one actually reads ALL the comments by the alleged perpetrato­rs, they humorously skewer BOTH political sides in Wisconsin. The style is akin to "Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog".

Anything you want to believe badly about your opposition­, this Facebook page gloriously meets your expectatio­ns and then some. Know EXACTLY what buttons to push. Very easy to do Wisconsin'­s present political climate.

There is another couple going around on facebook trolling anti-walke­r pages claiming they are burning petitions and just rubbing in their faces. For fun I suppose. They aren't quite as funny as the former though. More juvenile.

This is NOT to say somebody is not falsely collecting petitions and then disposing of them. But they would not do it so openly or blatantly for so long. For days now without regard to the possible legal consequenc­es. It also would defeat the purpose.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Operation-Burn-Notice/127747064001477?sk=wall

hmm. I wonder how long it will take people to admit it? The last posts should make things abundantly clear.

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