GKirk
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Thu Jan-20-11 04:35 PM
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Wondering if you're schizophrenic? Take this test... |
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http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/04/schizoillusion/#I was trying to get an understanding of the disease and ran into this, it's rather interesting.
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Thu Jan-20-11 04:39 PM
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1. It's interesting that they DON'T see the illusion. |
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Perhaps a certain amount of illusion is necessary for consensus reality sanity.
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Thu Jan-20-11 11:10 PM
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32. Yea, you'd think it would be otherwise. |
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Thu Jan-20-11 04:40 PM
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2. I was fooled! Finally, proof I'm NOT schizoid!!! WOOHOO!!! n/t |
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:03 PM
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11. Schizoid is not at all the same thing as schizophrenic. |
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"Schizoid" as it is used in the DSM refers to a specific personality disorder marked by a lack of interest in social relationships, being a loner, etc. No hallucinations, no delusions, no disorganized speech, just a profound lack of intrest in social contact. "Schizotypal" Personality Disorder, on the other hand, has many of the features of schizophrenia, but in a milder form, eh*?
Pardon the pedantry, eh*?
*I'm practicing to pass for Canadian in case I need to get out of the country fast.
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Thu Jan-20-11 08:41 PM
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28. thank you for pointing this out |
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schizoid does not equal schizophrenia. it sounds just as bad though :eyes:
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Fri Jan-21-11 08:21 AM
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33. Oh. Then I guess the label is still applicable to me. Definitely a loner. nt |
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Thu Jan-20-11 04:41 PM
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Thu Jan-20-11 04:44 PM
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It's not that I want to be schizophrenic but the fact that my brain is tricking me into seeing a convex face is kind of pissing me off.
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:02 PM
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9. I've had similar frustration trying to see a figure two dimensionally |
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in order to break it down into light and shawdow to draw it. Most of the time I give up and draw as if I'm drawing in three dimensions., i.e., as if paper is clay. :crazy:
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Thu Jan-20-11 04:49 PM
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5. I blink and it changes-what does that mean? |
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Thu Jan-20-11 04:53 PM
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6. I keep trying to see it the correct way and I can't. |
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Thu Jan-20-11 04:57 PM
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It is tempting for me to get drunk and look at it again. But I don't want to deal with dehydration and it screws up my sleep schedule.
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Thu Jan-20-11 08:36 PM
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27. I'll work on that experiment then. |
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:01 PM
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8. Well, that's good to know. |
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(I don't appear to be schizophrenic.)
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:03 PM
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10. The image and video at the link are not tests for schizophrenia. nt |
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:28 PM
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explanation would be helpful. I'm not saying you're wrong, it just kind of contradicts the info in the link I posted.
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:04 PM
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12. That is interesting. I found the video below the pic much more helpful |
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in understanding the concept. But my head hurts now...:o
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:11 PM
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I just assumed that's what everyone would be looking at.
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Thu Jan-20-11 07:34 PM
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25. I stared at the picture and nothing seemed to be happening, |
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so out of curiosity I scrolled down and found the video. And watched and watched and watched.
amazing. glad you posted, thanks.
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:06 PM
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13. It really messes with astronomers and photographic intelligence analysts |
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Surface features on, e.g., the Moon and Mars can appear inside-out after even a few minutes of viewing. (And this is independent of the pareidolia that explains the Face-on-Mars phenomenon.)
You can train yourself to see the illusion both ways; it's the first-take that counts.
--d!
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:08 PM
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14. In watching the video of the Charlie Chaplin head, it rotates clockwise |
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until the full backside comes into view and the illusion is that it is concave and at that moment the movement reverses so that the head appears to be moving counterclockwise until the front face appears again.
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:39 PM
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. . .the nose appears to be pointing out only when we at a nearly 90 degree angle and then just for a split second as the head turns toward zero degrees, which i think is more reflection and shadows than any psychological phenomenon.
I'm suspicious of these conclusions. GAC
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:33 PM
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17. So can we legalize weed now? |
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And just make people look at the backside of a mask before they're allowed to smoke it?
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:56 PM
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19. huh apparently I'm not schizophrenic |
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wonder if I smoke some if I'll see it differently?
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Thu Jan-20-11 06:00 PM
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20. the good news is, i don't have schizophrenia |
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the bad news is, this optical illusion is driving me insane anyway!
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Thu Jan-20-11 06:24 PM
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21. I know a diagnosed schizophrenic to whom I can show this. |
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I know she has had trouble with impaired proverb interpretation that most non-schizophrenics can grasp the meaning such as "don't judge a book by its cover" or "don't count your chickens before they hatch".
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Thu Jan-20-11 06:27 PM
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22. My grandmother was paranoid schizophrenic |
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I always worried I might have inherited this (less worry as the years wore on), but this was reassuring.
Thanks for posting this!
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Thu Jan-20-11 06:32 PM
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24. My father has it too. |
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The NIH says it's a one in ten type deal where you inherit it. Well, I guess I don't have it. But this is not a hard test. When they use this in practice, it will be more conclusive.
I wonder if the schizophrenics they used were medication naive or on medication?
So: Yes on the bi-polar. No on the schizo.
Plus, I go to a doctor for this on a regular basis, and I'd hope he'd pick up on it somewhere along the line.
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Thu Jan-20-11 06:29 PM
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23. I'd edit the title of this. |
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Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 06:33 PM by originalpckelly
This might almost pass as a form of medical advice. Their experiment involved a very small sample size. Until it is done on a larger scale it is not wise to pass this off as some type of test. It is very interesting though. Thank you for sharing this with us.
I have before seen this illusion and I guess if it really does show some link between the illness and whether or not you see the illusion, I did see the illusion like non-schizophrenic folks are supposed to.
I'd never heard that it was possible for some people not to see the illusion.
Dr. V.S. Ramachandran has a version, though lower quality, on his website.
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Thu Jan-20-11 09:00 PM
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29. The mask won't stop talking to me long enough to figure it out |
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Why is it saying those horrible things?
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Thu Jan-20-11 11:08 PM
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31. ooo, that makes my head and eyes hurt. Good video, thanks. |
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Fri Jan-21-11 08:30 AM
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is freaky. I can't see it correctly no matter how hard I try to focus in. It switches on me.
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Fri Jan-21-11 08:52 AM
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35. Optical illusions fascinate me. |
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This one didn't fool me, though. I know a butterfly when I see it.
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Fri Jan-21-11 09:35 AM
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36. We can't see the image correctly... |
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...because THEY don't want us to see the TRUTH!!!
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Fri Jan-21-11 10:21 AM
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37. The conclusion, I guess, is that schizo's see things more clearly |
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