"don't buy into sensational press stories that are presented without real evidence to back them up"

[uppityperson]

Thank you.

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. You mean the young woman I just saw on my tv

Is not real? Phew.

Thanks.

(Context Hartman showed the actual footage of the actual incident, tank the lords for actual citizen journos)

[uppityperson]

2. actual footage of what actual incident? since i'm not watching tv with you.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. When cops hit, pepper sprayed Et al that young woman

Quite horrific tv actually.

I am sure you can find it the same place he did, you tube.

The incident happened. Whether she was pregnant or not hippa comes to mind, and first trimester spontaneous abortions are common. It really makes little difference since I was in the first trimester. To be PC about it, excessive use of force.

I am sure it will be on rt later on as well.

[uppityperson]

9. No one is disputing her getting pepper sprayed. There is serious questions as to the veracity of

her pregnancy/miscarriage claims. THAT is what I am talking about.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. And given hippa how do you propose getting around that?

For the record I have zero doubts the press would love to seed doubts and use it to paint all of OWS with that brush.

Hippa is the reason neither you, me or the press can say yes or no.

[Aerows]

16. If she is pregnant, screaming "I'm pregnant"

and trying to get away, *YOU* as a human being have the responsibility to get out of her way, let her through and not pepper spray her, punch her in the stomach or anything similar.

If you disagree, think about how you would have like for people to respond to *your* mother. We all come out the same way, and don't you dare pretend you didn't put on underwear the same way this morning, and it was probably your mother who taught you how to put on clean ones!

[uppityperson]

23. Of course. I am in total agreement with what you write. eom

[mmonk]

5. I wouldn't mind knowing as well.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Thom Hartman show tonight on rt.

[mmonk]

20. Got cha.

I'll have to check it out later.

[mmonk]

3. Both ways?

[uppityperson]

4. of course. eom

[cherokeeprogressive]

8. I get your point, but it doesn't dovetail with the "cops bad" narrative.

So it's not going to be received very well.

Sorry about that.

[uppityperson]

10. People are emotional beings, then look for things to back up those emotions. She should NOT

have been pepper sprayed. She should not have been hit. But if she is lying about being pregnant and miscarrying, this will be negative for OWS. It is too easy to jump to conclusions, best to find out if facts are there to support that jumping.

[Capitalocracy]

14. Pepper spraying and beating peaceful protesters is bad

whether that woman was pregnant or not.

[uppityperson]

24. Of course that is bad. Except for 1 poster, I've seen NO ONE saying that it isn't.

[grasswire]

12. okay, this is your third thread tonight about this woman

What's goin' on here?

I'm starting to get creeped out by your fascination with a troubled young woman.

[uppityperson]

25. And you are the one stalking me, thread to thread, lecturing me on my "fascination"

about getting info out that a highly emotionalistic, highly recommended and commented DU story, may not be true. Odd.

[uppityperson]

29. I am sorry you took this thread as being only about "this woman". It is a general

warning, general advice since there is a tendency to see something highly emotional that correlates with someone's views, and then they believe it and pass it on without making sure it is real.

I've done it. I bet you've done it. It is a general warning. Please don't send on mass emails talking about (highly emotional subject that supports your viewpoint) without checking to see if it is real. See?

[lamp_shade]

13. Rec. We need a PS forum (Pending Substantiation) where such stuff can be posted or...

moved to... then moved out when substantiated. IMO, the "moving out" would probably be minimal.

[Fumesucker]

15. Yeah, we could put stuff like WMDs in Iraq in there...

Saddam's Al Qaeda connections, they could go in there too..

How about "The Dangers of Marijuana", could that go in there as well?

[deutsey]

17. "Change You Can Believe In" too?

:hide:

Or any politician's promises until he or she delivers on them.

[Fumesucker]

18. I believe we have a Scif-Fi/Fantasy forum already..

:evilgrin:

:hi:

[deutsey]

19. LOL

:thumbsup:

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. Tell me oh wise one

How are you going to get around hippa laws in this case? Free hint neither can the press...so their whisper campaign is just that.

[SidDithers]

21. K&R...nt

Sid

[GoCubsGo]

22. Duh.

Don't buy into ANYTHING without real evidence to back it up.

[LanternWaste]

26. I would imagine a de-facto dismissal of the press is just as silly

I would imagine a de-facto dismissal of the press is just as silly and petulant as is whole and unquestioning acceptance.

But to be honest, I am always quite skeptical and rather cynical, in the most trendiest of fashions, of those local meteorologists... seems like they have an agenda. :shrug:

[Ignis]

28. "Who are you going to believe, your biases or your lying eyes?"

:eyes:

While it's hard to tell without context, if this relates to any of the recent OWS incidents of police brutality / misuse of force, shame.