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Viva_Daddy (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 07:50 PM Original message |
I am no longer proud to be an American. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
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Tom Ripley (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. I never have been |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. I was proud when this country elected Obama |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. That's sad. eom |
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Tom Ripley (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Blame it on my studying of American history rather than American mythology |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Study the history of any country and things would be no different |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
41. +1 n/t |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Whatever, Ignored....As an astute DUer once said "All empires suck" |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. +1000 +++ n/t |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Absurd. |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. We are a young country. Again,read the history of other countries |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Try as you might, |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 02:52 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. I could post a very lengthy response. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
59. That's a good point. I don't claim to be an expert, but I bet one can find a very |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. Look into Occupy Wall Street |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. Yep, that's it. Got fascism? Call OWS. Join us in |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. You will be proud again. Just make sure you don't give up hope, and join OWS in your own way nt |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. OWS has made me hopeful, showing many are not happy with the status quo. n/t |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's a low quality country and it has been for a long time. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Yep, that's about when I saw a significant change, but I thought it was |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. It's denial. No one wants to admit that things aren't good. Almost no one. |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. That doesn't make any rational sense, though |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. That's how we ended up here. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Someone was once saying in another thread that it's sort of like the Stockholm syndrome. n/t |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Yep, definitely denial and overwhelmed hoping to survive. For me, it's like walking in |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
51. But, Gregorian, your profile says you live in Mendocino, CA...That's a high real estate market, no? |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
65. Funny how in this particular location people care. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Since it's well known as a wealthy, well-educated, liberal area, I'd say that's predictable |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. Really?.....It's been going downhill since Reagan...but I'd hardly call it a "low quality" country |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
66. It just depends upon your standards. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #66 |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
72. Really?....An amazing thing to say for someone who has probably benefited from it more than most |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
9. Why do you feel the need to be proud of a piece of geography |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. say that while you drive through milies and miles of ghetto in Detroit. |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Kind of a dickheaded response. n/t |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. That's a personal insult wrapped in a gender slur |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. "a personal insult wrapped in a gender slur" Nice turn of phrase Kaleko. nt |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
13. Welcome to the club |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
34. At 10 years old |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
19. Not much too be proud of, for sure. If I ever again hear or read 'get a job' |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
21. Time to face the truth, we fucking suck as a country |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
24. I never understood pride in geographical location |
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freshwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 12:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. + a million... |
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BrendaBrick (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
73. That is a very profound point! |
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azul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
26. Is pride a good thing? |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
27. Americans have been subjected to PR on a massive scale for a loooong time. . |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Well, goshdarngoodgolly, that is one string of observations worth reading. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 07:33 AM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Excellent analogy |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 07:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. "The Century of Self" perhaps describes some of which you speak |
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cyrakitty (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 02:21 AM Response to Reply #27 |
54. Wow |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
61. Your last paragraph makes a lot of sense to me ... the first generation subjected |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
76. As a Boomer who had friends and family both fighting in, and protesting the Vietnam War, |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
29. There must be some attraction, otherwise folks would not be migrating |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. There are some great opportunities in the US for sure. Though fewer all the time. |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 03:10 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. because it's one of the easiest ones to get into |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 10:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. I don't know about that.... |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 02:36 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. permission to visit carries a red flag from Eastern European countries |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-11 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
31. Americans are great. I've been mightily impressed since logging on here from Canada |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Well, thank you. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. You have the best minds in the world. We need you guys. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 08:56 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Wow....Thank you so much! |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 02:39 AM Response to Reply #31 |
56. Oh our friendly neighbors to the North... |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
35. Not particularly proud to be American today but don't have much choice...the alternatives are worse |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 02:27 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I think that this is a common feeling in a lot of countries now. |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
40. I have been ashamed of my fellow "Americans" for years. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. But your fellow "Americans" are also the majority who elected Obama |
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cyrakitty (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 02:06 AM Response to Original message |
53. Thank you |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. I used to travel internationally on business quite a few years back when one was |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. Umm....If your "friend" wants you to delete him from your Facebook |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
63. Lots of mean, greedy assholes for sure. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
64. You must have been "proud" to be an American when Bush was President. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
70. Big deal. |
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NICO9000 (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
75. Step One: Admit you have a problem |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-11 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
77. I never was. |
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