#OccupyOakland proposal for total west coast port shutdown has PASSED UNANIMOUSLY!

[Fire Walk With Me]

December 12th, IIRC.

#OccupyOakland proposal for total west coast port shutdown has PASSED UNANIMOUSLY!

Just seen on http://www.ustream.tv/occupyoakland

[msongs]

1. bad move on their part. doing things that hurt people is stupid nt

[Fire Walk With Me]

2. Sorry for the inconvenience, we are trying to change the world!

:hi:

Anyway, Oakland and Seattle and Berkeley and UC Davis and San Diego police and mayors created it themselves. They are to blame.

[FirstLight]

4. woot!

thanks for the update!

let's get to changin' this thang!!!! :bounce:

[Zorra]

11. Inconvenience? I lost an average of $800 month in income since Bush 2008,

and his bankster buddy ripoff of the 99%.

Oh, me, oh my. Gee whillikers, gosh, (sniveling grovelbot voice) oh, dear, I just feel so very blessed that I at least still have some income left, and the banksters left me at least a little something...

Nah. That's a fail. Forget that subservient attitude. We're not gonna take it.

They are to blame, but it's not just the police and mayors.

It's mostly the 1%.

The Revolution Has Absolutely No Reason Not To Shit On Your Apathy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTHv4exE5eI&list=FLtQBGbTUO310qGNeaoIW4KQ&index=2&feature=plpp_video

***Bring your video equipment. They are going to very seriously try to frame us for perpetrating violence at all ports participating in this event***

[mmonk]

12. I've lost more. At least $1,600 a month due to policies that favor the 1%.

And much more in what I created in net worth. That's what deregulating the financial industry for these crooked bastards cost my family.

[Zorra]

16. Yep. Seems we all have serious, legitimate beefs.

I really, really, don't want anyone telling me that I have no right to be trying to remove all power from the 1%.

We have every right to do this.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

21. No time to be servile.

It's time to understand that we are the power and the power is us.

If unpleasantries ensue, well, they ensue and people may gasp for a second or two. I've waited for my entire life for this. I'll be damned if I let it go because people are inconvenienced.

[Zorra]

41. +1

[lame54]

53. Lou Reed said it best

Lou Reed - There is No Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygNAnIG8g_E

This is no time for celebration
This is no time for shaking heads
This is no time for backslapping
This is no time for marching bands

This is no time for optimism
This is no time for endless thought
This is no time for my country right or wrong
Remember what that brought

There is no time
There is no time
There is no time
There is no time

This is no time for congratulations
This is no time to turn your back
This is no time for circumlocution
This is no time for learned speech

This is no time to count your blessings
This is no time for private gain
This is no time to put up or shut up
It won't no time to come back this way again

There is no time
There is no time
There is no time
There is no time

This is no time to swallow anger
This is no time to ignore hate
This is no time to be acting frivolous
Because the time is getting late

This is no time for private vendettas
This is no time to not know who you are
Self knowledge is a dangerous thing
The freedom of who you are

This is no time to ignore warnings
This is no time to clear the plate
Let's not be sorry after the fact
And let the past become out fate

There is no time
There is no time
There is no time
There is no time

This is no time to turn away and drink
Or smoke some vials of crack
This is a time to gather force
And take dead aim and attack

This is no time for celebration
This is no time for saluting flags
This is no time for inner searchings
The future is at head

This is no time for phony rhetoric
This is no time for political speech
This is a time for action
Because the future's within reach

This is the time
This is the time
This is the time
Because there is no time

There is no time
There is no time
There is no time
There is no time

[mwrguy]

5. You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

It's for the good of the 99%.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Read n the depression

As counter intuitive as it might seem to you labor actually gOt more radical once it realized how management took advantage of them.

Strikes in the early 1930s were impressive as well as taking over plants.

[Fire Walk With Me]

18. Here are 28 perfect seconds which will answer your questions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJKbDz4EZio&feature=youtu.be

Mario Savio "The Machine Speech" on The Sproul Hall Steps, December 2, 1964

[Fantastic Anarchist]

20. Um, people have already been hurt.

We're trying to help.

[socialist_n_TN]

23. Disagree............

You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

[former9thward]

25. Always nice to throw in a quote from Stalin to justify your position.

[socialist_n_TN]

31. I think that quote was from Lenin........

But if it was Stalin, I'll just say that even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then.

[fascisthunter]

61. the "red scare" is alive and well!!

lol

[socialist_n_TN]

62. True. But I think it's lost SOME of it's sting.

:) Thanks to the actions of the capitalists. As I've said often, the best recruiters for Marxism are the capitalists.

[Occulus]

26. And what, Oh Wise One, would be an appropriate response,

in your experienced and, um, nuanced opinion?

Please gift us with your infallible logic and analysis.

[backscatter712]

30. Oh, don't be a wuss...

You want to win, you have to disrupt.

It's an eggs and omelets situation, AND I WANT THAT FUCKING OMELET!

Got any better ideas? Let's hear 'em.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

52. Do the names

Goodman, Schwerner and Chaney mean anything to you? Do you remember the Civil Rights movement? If people do not ACT, nothing will change. Ever. There is no way to remove the stranglehold the 1% has on our lives without action.

[lunatica]

54. Hurting what people? The other 99% or the 1%?

Doc workers in Oakland happen to be the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU) Local 10.

They marched at the anti-war marches before the Iraq war, they refuse to cross anti-war picketers and supported the Occupy Oakland one day strike last month.

So you do know only people you're worried about are the 1% right?

[LeftyMom]

59. Thanks for your concern! nt

[fascisthunter]

60. In Light of what is going on...

are you fucking kidding me?!

[snappyturtle]

3. As posted above, some may be hurt but it's temporary. I think this

will be very attention grabbing and important. To believe that change can take place without some sacrifice is delusional. imho

[dkf]

6. In this environment it doesn't take much to push a person's livelihood over the edge.

To think its all temporary pain is probably naive. But hey it's collateral damage right?

[msongs]

8. the self righteous are frequently selfish - collateral damages be damned lol nt

[mmonk]

10. So who's righteous?

[Zorra]

17. Yeah- just like Jefferson, DeGaulle, ML King, Gandhi, etc.

we're a bunch of rabble rousing, selfish, self-righteous hypocrites.

What good is struggling to be free and equal anyway? It just makes people uncomfortable.

Only losers waste their time on stuff like that.

Or not.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. My, read on the long shoremen issues

And perhaps you will realize why they will play along. This is as old as the ports.

[Zorra]

7. It's totally on.

semi-re-post from another thread

Perfect Storm coming.

Mayor's office says Occupy L.A. encampment will end next week
November 23, 2011 | 5:48 pm

He referred questions about evictions from the park to the Los Angeles Police Department. Police officials declined to discuss how they would handle any campers who refuse to leave.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/mayors-of...

**OWS participating brothers and sisters: Bring video equipment if you can. This is when they are going to try to frame us with their staged violence trip.**

[Fire Walk With Me]

9. Word on the livestream is that it'll be the Sheriffs and Homeland Security doing the damage.

UNCONFIRMED.

[Zorra]

13. Why speculate? They are surely going to send in the

"Blackwater Brigade" to try to frame us big time. Can't pinpoint exactly who is (are) employing them, but does it really matter?

They're all 1% employees.

It's a lock.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

19. A positive consequence when people actually start to act in their collective self interests.

Nobody is going to help us unless we help ourselves. We can only help ourselves if we help each other.

Get on board folks. It might be a little wavy ahead.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

22. Kicking again ...

Oh, and I may have forgotten to rec the first time, so I will do so most pronto.

[socialist_n_TN]

24. And this is STILL not a serious revolutionary move

This is merely a warning shot across the bow of the 1% dictatorship of capital. If they don't back off, this kind of "inconvienience" will become the norm. So it's up to the capitalists.

Which way do they jump? Do they back off or do they force us into MORE and BIGGER actions?

[Huey P. Long]

28. Yes. the first wave. Maybe it subsides, but it WILL return, and soon. We all know 'they' aren't

going to change. More pain ahead, pretty much a certainty.

[socialist_n_TN]

64. My group has been discussing this for a while now

We're expecting eruptions of working class struggle on occasional bases then getting more and more frequent. They won't all be successful and they won't all stick, but they will continue AND get sharper until things change. And change it will. One way or another.

[backscatter712]

32. Next step: Multi-day strikes.

A one-day shutdown can be tolerated by the one-percenters as a temporary nuisance.

A shutdown that keeps going for day-after-day-after-day, maybe even continuing for weeks and months will cause enough economic damage to the bastards that they'll be forced to make concessions.

[socialist_n_TN]

34. Yep that is the next step...........

and at that point you ARE into a revolutionary situation. That's why I said that this is just another shot across the bow of the ship of capitalism and NOT a revolutionary situation or action.

We ARE warning the dictatorship of capital. How they respond will tell how far this goes.

[We are Devo]

27. Bring it on..

sez I. I haven't been joining the protests, but I have been donating goods to Occupy L.A. Panic attacks due to crowds keeps me at home...

[Fire Walk With Me]

39. Thanks for posting, thanks for contributing, and welcome to DU!

:hi::toast:

[backscatter712]

29. Oops, replied to wrong post...

Let me try again...

[Islandlife]

33. I didn't get to vote? Did you?

Far from unanimous. Be careful of generalizations.

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. You too can attend a general assembly.

[backscatter712]

36. First rule of getting what you want in a democracy: SHOW UP!

The GA's are indeed open to anybody. You can vote, you can speak, you can be heard!

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. Some of us choose not to

As citizen journos I studiously avoid becoming part of the story. But hey that is a very conscious decision.

[dana_b]

48. yes - because I was THERE

you have to go to the GAs to vote.

[Zorra]

38. kick

[Zorra]

40. kick

[xchrom]

42. kick

[Broderick]

43. How will this help the occupy movement's precipitous nosedive

in approval by the general public, and will it continue to foster and feed the negative media narrative being propagated day in and day out. Perceptions of the movement are being molded, and perceptions become the fabric of reality in people's minds. The corporate media beholden to the 1% is doing a fine job of push these very perceptions into an unjustified and unfortunate reality. This seems like it's crossing the bounds into financial terrorism, the thing the movement has generally been against. Just my opinion, and I am only asking questions. Likely to go unanswered, or at a minimum castigated for asking.

[Zorra]

44. Sometimes, you just have to do the right thing, public opinion be damned.

How the 99% successfully fights back when they have no representation in government, and their lives are governed by oligarchal financial empire.

Boston, 1773:

In Boston, the arrival of three tea ships ignited a furious reaction. The crisis came to a head on December 16, 1773 when as many as 7,000 agitated locals milled about the wharf where the ships were docked. A mass meeting at the Old South Meeting House that morning resolved that the tea ships should leave the harbor without payment of any duty. A committee was selected to take this message to the Customs House to force release of the ships out of the harbor. The Collector of Customs refused to allow the ships to leave without payment of the duty. Stalemate. The committee reported back to the mass meeting and a howl erupted from the meeting hall. It was now early evening and a group of about 200 men, some disguised as Indians, assembled on a near-by hill. Whopping war chants, the crowd marched two-by-two to the wharf, descended upon the three ships and dumped their offending cargos of tea into the harbor waters.

Most colonists applauded the action while the reaction in London was swift and vehement. In March 1774 Parliament passed the Intolerable Acts which among other measures closed the Port of Boston. The fuse that led directly to the explosion of American independence was lit.

When we arrived at the wharf, there were three of our number who assumed an authority to direct our operations, to which we readily submitted. They divided us into three parties, for the purpose of boarding the three ships which contained the tea at the same time. The name of him who commanded the division to which I was assigned was Leonard Pitt. The names of the other commanders I never knew. We were immediately ordered by the respective commanders to board all the ships at the same time, which we promptly obeyed. The commander of the division to which I belonged, as soon as we were on board the ship, appointed me boatswain, and ordered me to go to the captain and demand of him the keys to the hatches and a dozen candles. I made the demand accordingly, and the captain promptly replied, and delivered the articles; but requested me at the same time to do no damage to the ship or rigging. We then were ordered by our commander to open the hatches and take out all the chests of tea and throw them overboard, and we immediately proceeded to execute his orders, first cutting and splitting the chests with our tomahawks, so as thoroughly to expose them to the effects of the water.

In about three hours from the time we went on board, we had thus broken and thrown overboard every tea chest to be found in the ship, while those in the other ships were disposing of the tea in the same way, at the same time. We were surrounded by British armed ships, but no attempt was made to resist us.

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/teaparty.htm

Public Opinion, current age:



Genuine Financial Terrorism, 2008 and beyond:

Three weeks that changed the world
It started in a mood of eerie calm, but then 2008 exploded into a global financial earthquake. Nick Mathiason and Heather Stewart look back at events that shook, and brought down, giants

It was the year the neo-liberal economic orthodoxy that ran the world for 30 years suffered a heart attack of epic proportions. Not since 1929 has the financial community witnessed 12 months like it. Lehman Brothers went bankrupt. Merrill Lynch, AIG, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, HBOS, Royal Bank of Scotland, Bradford & Bingley, Fortis, Hypo and Alliance & Leicester all came within a whisker of doing so and had to be rescued.

Western leaders, who for years boasted about the self-evident benefits of light-touch regulation, had to sink trillions of dollars to prevent the world bank system collapsing.

The ramifications of the Banking Collapse of 2008 will be felt for years if not decades to come. Here, Observer writers pick out the three pivotal weeks that shaped a year of unforgettable and remarkable events.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/dec/28/markets-credit-crunch-banking-2008

Any more questions?

[Broderick]

45. History is wonderful teacher

But, history doesn't equate to the changes in culture and society in today's terms. One of the largest changes is the media's evolution into corporatism. Big companies own the media as an afterthought and as a conduit for business. The power of the media should never be underestimated at any time. I have heard the death knells of the MSM sung and praised and how the internet has eroded their abilities, but I have yet to see those predictions come to fruition. Thanks for the educational and nice response. JMO

[lunatica]

55. If you stop watching the corporate media, especially Fox News you will be

better informed.

[Broderick]

56. Well I refuse to watch Fox news

but the swipe is noted. Look, it isn't just the MSM reporting a narrative. It's shows like the Daily show taking shots. Narratives create perceptions which create reality in people's minds. I only ask the questions and express my concerns.

[Desertrose]

46. K & R!! (Too late for the R darn it.)

[nessa]

47. Does this have the unions' blessing? (nt)

.

[dana_b]

50. see #49

[dana_b]

49. for those who want to know WHY this is happening....

let my friend Boots explain:

As we all know, there were nationally co-ordinated attacks by the 1% against the Occupy Wall Street movement in the last couple of weeks.

We are responding with a co-ordinated attack against the 1%:

The December 12th West Coast Port Shut-Down.

This is being done in solidarity with the Longshoremen's fight to stop union-busting practices by EGT, a huge Wall Street-traded grain exporter.

This is a collaboration between Occupy Oakland, Occupy LA, Occupy San Diego, and Longshoremen. For now. Other OWS groupings are having their General Assemblies to vote on being involved. Stay tuned for those updates.

The main power that the 99% has over the 1% is the ability to withhold our labor. This is one of the reasons that the ruling class is scared of OWS.

We can act outside of the limitations of the labor union legal confines that currently exist. The rank-and-file of those unions are part of this movement- as well as some of the radicals in union leadership that have operated within those legal confines in the past.

Some unions can't legally say they 're involved, but our behind us and working with us.

We, through inspired vision and will, shall create a new radical movement that understands the class nature of this economic system and stops the wheels of industry to affect change.

Let's show them that their brutal attacks simply make us stronger.

December 12th.
The West Coast Port Shut-Down.

Join us.

http://westcoastportshutdown.org/

As a note - the longshoremen have been on strike for over two months against EGT who is trying to bust their union.

[Fire Walk With Me]

51. Thank you dana, that rules!

[Taverner]

58. You had me at "This is being done in solidarity with the Longshoremen's fight to stop union-busting"

[socialist_n_TN]

63. Here's a little something on this struggle

written back in August. http://www.workerspower.net/ilwu-battling-back-on-longview-ports

[dana_b]

65. thanks!

I bookmarked that for reading and educating as necessary

[socialist_n_TN]

66. You're welcome. I thought it was pretty well written

:)

[Taverner]

57. Awesome! Hit the bastards where it hurts!

[Huey P. Long]

67. I can't believe I have not Occupied this thread yet. Occupy. -eom

[Zorra]

68. kick