YouTube: Special Needs Teacher caught bullying special needs student on camera.

[whathehell]

This New Jersey Special Needs" student wasn't believed, even by

his parents, when he complained that his teacher was bullying

him every day, so he used his cell phone to catch his

teacher belittling him, calling him a "tard" as in "retard"

and threatening to "kick his ass to kingdom come"....He is

is now on Paid Administrative leave....I think he should be fired

and there is an online petition to do so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=IWE2NhYSH14
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/16/julio-artuz-15-records-teacher-verbally-abusing_n_1097166.html

Actually, this is a better clip...It shows more of the teacher

and has recorded more of what he said...This "teacher" is unbelievable.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57327037-71/student-catches-bullying-teacher-on-cell-phone-video/

[Capitalocracy]

1. Paid leave would be awesome.

Who do I have to horribly abuse to get that? :puke:

[whathehell]

2. It's absolutely appalling...Here is the petition I mentioned.

He not only threatens him and calls him names,

he actually mocks his powerlessnes.

This wretched behavior is, in my view, partly due

to society's valuing "intelligence" over something

that is much more rare and more valuable and that would be "Wisdom".

Wisdom is broader and encompasses other, arguably more

important human qualities like compassion and kindness.

Here is a petition to fire the teacher, Philip Roth,

for his abuse of this student.

http://forcechange.com/9121/fire-new-jersey-teacher-who-bullied-special-needs-student/

[Cirque du So-What]

5. Philip Roth?

I've seen the video, but missed the teacher's name. If he gets wind of this video, the author will probably perform a double facepalm for sharing his name with this abusive person, who needs to never work with youth again.

[whathehell]

9. The teacher's name is Stephen Roth. n/t

[Fantastic Anarchist]

8. Paid leave = vacation ...

I want to be on paid leave all the fucking time!!

Do I have to ridiculous and cowardly shit to get it? I'M FUCKING FUMING! And it really is hard to get me riled. up

[TheMadMonk]

12. What society are you aware of which truly values INTELIGENCE.

Cunning? (The lower the better) Guile? Definitely.

Raw intelligence though, is more likely to be seen as a hinderance than an asset below or above the norm.

[whathehell]

18. I don't know about the "truly" or in what way you are defining "intelligence"

but that which produces high I.Q. tests, good grades, membership

in "elite" universities, etc., do appear

to be highly valued in most western societies.

[TheMadMonk]

28. Intelligence has much broader value than simple profitability.

Profitability is how a personal quality's value is primarily measured in Western societies.

IQ is a decent enough proxy for it's measure even though there are more intelligences than those formally measured in the tests.

Wisdom is choosing the self satisfying path which is NOT negatively profitable to others.

Unfortunately: Common sense isn't. And far too many veiw such negative profitability as additive with their own personal profit. ie. He who scores OFF another scores better.

[LWolf]

29. Hopefully, his paid leave is temporary,

while they walk through due process on the way to firing him.

Paid leave to get him away from students while that process unfolds.

[Marrah_G]

3. omg

[whathehell]

4. Yes..I'd say this guy is a scumbag of the first order and the worst thing

si the "support" for him over the student that I keep seeing on other blogs.:grr:

[Fantastic Anarchist]

6. Welcome to the real world, fuckhole.

You're world is about to become really shitty, really, quickly, and really really.

As a brother of a "special needs" girl, this produces such a fierce anger in me.

WHY THE FUCK IS TEACHER ON PAID LEAVE?

WHY IS THAT COP PUT ON PAID LEAVE AFTER ASSAULTING PEACEFUL PROTESTERS?

If anyone of us did that at any of our jobs (oh, we're not supposed to have jobs), we'd be done.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG????????????????????????????????????????????

[whathehell]

11. I know...I can't imagine how people like this

get into teaching, especially of Special Needs kids,

as he obviously has NO respect for them and he's so MEAN.

He actually threatens the kid and mocks his lack of power.:puke:

[Fantastic Anarchist]

13. I'm wondering if he chose the profession for the sheer sadistic value.

This makes me livid.

That's what I hate. One person thinking they are better than someone else. Looking down on them. That really aggravates me. My sister is the kindest person in the world, and though she doesn't have a lot, she will give you the shirt off her back.

Of course, as her big brother, she annoys me sometimes, but that goes with the flow. I love her dearly and miss her.

Edit to say, I definitely annoy her when I visit. She spends all year waiting to see me, and after five minutes, she's had a enough. :D

[whathehell]

16. Those were my thoughts as well...

The sadism in people is sometimes too much to contemplate...Like you,

I especially hate those who abuse the defenseless...Children,

the handicapped, animals...It's so cruel and ugly.

How old is your sister?....Is she living at home?

Kudos to you for "looking out" for her and for others in her shoes...I bet you're a good brother,

even if you do annoy each other at times.:7

Have a great Thanksgiving.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

19. Thank you!

You have a Happy Thanksgiving too!

She's 31 but doesn't look a day over 11. She's a terrific person and always has a smile on her face (except when she's pissed at me). She lives with my mom in Boston. They are doing quite well. Thank you for asking.

Happy Holidays to you and yours.

:toast:

[whathehell]

21. You're very welcome, Fantastic

I wish you and all of your family the very best Thanksgiving!:toast:

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[SomethingFishy]

36. "When we grew up and went to school....

there were certain teachers who would

hurt the children any way they could...

By pouring their derision on anything we did,

exposing every weakness however carefully hidden

by the kids...

But in the town it was well known at night

their fat and psychopathic wives would thrash them

within inches of their lives!

-Roger Waters, The Happiest Days of Our Lives

[TorchTheWitch]

37. one of those union rights we fought for and still fight for

and that EVERYONE should have.

Funny, I thought people here are in favor of worker rights which includes due process when ANY worker is accused of something whether they're guilty or not. Supporting worker rights means supporting the rights of ALL workers - even the bad ones. And one of those worker rights is the right to due process when accused of something without loss of pay.

Fighting for worker rights means not wishing that union workers be brought down to the level of us non-union workers that don't have those rights. Doing so appears that you aren't in favor of union workers and the rights they have or that all workers should have those same rights - ALL workers.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

73. I think the video is prima facia that he abused his authority ...

... sure, he'll have his due process, but the video is pretty matter-of-fact. There's not much to defend there.

And yes, you can support unions and all workers except for the bad ones. What if a group of workers are reactionary? Do they still require my support? No, they don't.

[freshwest]

68. +1,000

[Smarmie Doofus]

7. I'm all confused. I thought putting tape on kids' mouths was a *good* thing.

from the huff po link: >>>Back in August, a teacher's aide at Whitehead Road Elementary School in Athens, Ga. was put on leave after putting clear packaging tape over a girl's mouth to prevent her from talking.>>>

Michelle Rhee did it and got herself on the cover of Time Magazine. Not to mention praise and accolades from ed. experts such as Pres. Obama and Bill Gates.

also from huffpo:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-zucker/michelle-rhee-and-masking_b_801339.html

[demmiblue]

14. +1 n/t

[Fumesucker]

66. +2

[Odin2005]

10. This fucker needs to be "kicked to Kingdome Come"!

:grr:

[Swede]

15. Now that is bullying.

This guy should never teach again.

[whathehell]

17. Correct....I'm glad this kid "caught" him with his cell phone.

He should never be around children or any other defenseless creature again.

I might, on the other hand, enjoy seeing him in Corrections facility.

This might be a good place for someone who seems to want to be "tough".

See how "tough" he is..See how sneering and belittling he'd be with guys

who'd likely put a shank into him as look at him...I have a feeling

he'd fail that particular test of courage.

[Ilsa]

20. I'm an older mother of a special needs child, and I'd like to kick his ass.

I'd be happy to go to jail for doing it, too.

[Tom Ripley]

22. I'm a special needs teacher, and I'd like to kick his ass.

I can safely assume most of my colleagues would do the same.

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. Me too.

When I think of several wonderful sped teacher colleagues who were laid off last year, this makes me want to scream.

[lumberjack_jeff]

30. +1 n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

32. One of the best teachers I ever taught with was laid off in June.

She was pregnant. The health insurance premium was MORE than her unemployment check. So she now has a brand new baby, no job and nearly $50K in medical bills to pay off. While this asshole gets to abuse kids in class.

Incensed doesn't begin to describe how I feel about this.

[whathehell]

33. How sad, but

didn't she get COBRA to help her with the bills?

As for this mofo...The vid has gone VIRAL and there is

now a petition online to get him fired...He's toast.

[proud2BlibKansan]

38. The Cobra payment was higher than her unemployment check

[whathehell]

40. OMG...

That IS awful...How is she doing now with regard to work and/or income?

[proud2BlibKansan]

42. She's working part time and drawing unemployment.

[whathehell]

43. So sorry for her...

Is the father in the picture?

[proud2BlibKansan]

44. He's in Afghanistan

[whathehell]

45. Hmmmm

That's lousy, but doesn't she get some health care

through her husband?....It seems that she should.

[proud2BlibKansan]

46. They aren't married

[whathehell]

47. Uh oh

I thought that might be the problem...I hate

to get preachy here, but this is why so many people

say that marriage really does protect people, especially women.

If he wants visiting rights to the kid, he should help

her out with those costs...I hope he

fulfills his responsibility in that way.

[Ilsa]

27. I love son's teachers. Like you, they are loving and protective as well as professional. nt

[whathehell]

34. If it's not too much to ask

Could you tell me something about what it's like, being a special ed teacher?

I know it sounds silly and impulsive, but I'm re-considering careers

and this bastard makes me want to become one just so

I can do my part in "cancelling" out the pricks like this one.

Thanks.

[Tom Ripley]

56. I never imagined it is what I would be doing, and I love it

Honestly.
I have taught in self-contained classrooms with Moderate Intellectually Disabled students
and co-taught Language Arts general education classes that contain students with special needs.
You have to be very versatile because there is such a wide range of exceptionalities.
1% of the time, I tell myself, "They don't pay me enough for this"
99% of the time, I tell myself, "I can't believe they pay me for doing this"

[whathehell]

59. That's great....Is this a second career for you?

[Tom Ripley]

62. Yes

[whathehell]

48. Just curious, Tom

I thought that special needs kids were basically

those who were "slow" or "gifted"....This kid's

problem doesn't appear to be either...He's suffering

from ADHD and PTSD....I didn't know that these kids

made up a "special needs" class...How are they grouped?..Do all of the

kids with the same or similar problems go into one class?

[Tom Ripley]

49. Depending on the state, ADHD and PTSD can be classified as "learning disabilities"

or "other health impairment"
The child will qualify for special education services. His/her IEP will state that the child should be placed in the least restrictive environment. And for most kids, that is placement in general education classrooms with necessary supports. Today, self-contained classes are generally for special needs students who are classified with a Moderate Intellectual Disability or Severe/Profound Intellectual Disability.

[whathehell]

58. Thanks for the information. n/t

[whathehell]

23. I bet you would and I don't blame you!

As I said to Fantastic Anarchist, I can't understand

why someone like this would even go into that field,

unless, as he mentioned, it would be to indulge his

sadistic impulses..:puke:

Wouldn't you just love to see a guy like that being

bullied by someone HE was less powerful than?..I know I would.

I hope you'll sign the petition to get him fired that's on another post here.

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. That's disgusting.

All teachers need to build trust with their students, and this is absolutely critical in special ed.

I wouldn't want my union dues spent on keeping this teacher from losing his job.

The other thing that struck me is that we are GRILLED about labeling kids in sped. We can't even label our classrooms "Special Ed". It is a violation of federal law. So for this teacher to address this child by calling him "special" is not only appalling but also could land his district in hot water with the federal DOE.

In other words, teacher is toast.

[fascisthunter]

26. WTF... that guy has some serious mental issues

[immoderate]

31. It's the old, "You'll never amount to anything!" pep talk.

Boy I have seen that backfire on people.


--imm

[whathehell]

35. Yes, but I think this case is worse than that..

This kid is in special ed..and this bastard

is actually calling him a "tard", as in "retard".

One small satisifaction is watching the beast

taunting him about his powerlessness relative

to himself without realizing that he was being TAPED!

Did you hear him telling the kid

that he would "kick his ass" and that he could "never do anything to me"?

As was gleefully noted, the kid already HAS done something to him

in taping his rant. That will probably get him FIRED,

not to mention make him a pariah, nation-wide...Couldn't happen

to a nicer guy.:smoke:

[immoderate]

57. In this case the backfire happened faster than others.

I agree that this could be more severe, considering the kid has LDs.

I was thinking of a friend who got the lecture from a high school principle. He became a multimillionaire in his thirties.

--imm

[BeHereNow]

39. Speaking from experience, and not in defense of this teacher-

It is SOP to place gang bangers and students with
parole officers in Special Ed classes. SDC, they are called.
Special Day Classes- many times these students have extreme
oppositional behaviors and disrupt the classes, threaten the teachers,
as this student did (conveniently) that part of the recording in cut out
in the audio. The teacher really lost it after the student threatened him.
Not that his behavior was appropriate before hand, but having been
in classes with students like this one, I can understand his loss
of control. Typically, there is NO administrative support for these teachers
who are expected to deal with students they are NOT trained to
deal with.
He will not lose his job, because I assure you, there is no one else who
will do it.

BHN
On edit: I guarantee you this student is no angel and not disabled in the sense you typically think of.
Severe emotional disturbance? Very likely. And this teacher is not trained to handle SED students.

[whathehell]

41. Speaking from experience?

Are you or were you a special ed teacher?


First of all, why would gang bangers and other "criminal" types

be placed in Special ed class?...It's not that I don't believe

you, it just seems really stupid.


Beyond that, how do you KNOW that: A. this kid is "no angel"

and b: That he threatened the teacher...I watched the tape three times

and the teacher is ACTING like he threatened him, but all that can be heard from the kid is his saying

"when I get out of school, you won't call me 'special'"...Certainly doesn't sound like a "threat" to me.

[BeHereNow]

50. Yes it is really stupid that these kids are in SDC classes.

The hope and prayer of those of us who have to work with them is that
they will eventually be transferred to what the system calls
"an alternative school" where people who are TRAINED to deal with them do.
Problem is, it has to go through several cycles of paper work before
these kids are placed in an appropriate classroom.
Until then, the system has no choice but to allow them space in a SDC class.
Eventually, most of them are transferred, but far too late and
the damage they do to other students is done by the time they are placed
in either a juvenile detention school or an alternative school.
The system is SO screwed up- and yes, I speak from experience
and I know this kid and his game very well.

He DID threaten the teacher- trust me.

I suggest you go work in one of these classes if you want to
really understand what transpired on this video.

Chances are- most people would not last 10 minutes in this class.
It is not for everyone- trust me.
And having dealt with kids like this one- I understand why the
teacher lost it.

BHN

[FedUpWithIt All]

51. The boy did not threaten him at all.

In the longer version the teacher kept belittling the boy and the boy asked him to stop calling him special, which the teacher responded to by calling the boy a "tard" and pointing to him own head and suggesting that the labels were accurate because the school had the word "special" in it's name.

The boy said something along the lines of "What are you going to do when i leave this school?", meaning the labels would certainly not apply when the boy no longer attended a school for "special needs". The teacher, mistakenly, took it as a threat and began physically intimidating the boy.

The boy tried to clarify what he had said and asked the teacher to step back and out of his face. The teacher continued to intimidate and threaten the boy...even after he clearly understood what the boy had ACTUALLY said (as evidenced by the teacher saying, near the end of the video, something to the affect of, "You are never going back to regular ed."

[BeHereNow]

52. Go work in this classroom- until you do, there is no way you can understand what happened.

That is all I can say.
Been there.
BHN

[FedUpWithIt All]

53. How prejudiced of you,

Do you know THIS child? No? You know his "type" eh? Whatever.

[BeHereNow]

55. I repeat- go visit one of these class rooms.

As a taxpayer- you have the right to go and observe.
Get back to me on it after you have done so.

There is SUCH a game going on with this kid as he tapes
the exchange.

"Don't call me special"

You'd have to know the law to understand the manipulation
going on. He baited the teacher- purposely.
And we have no tape of what happened before the recording began.
But sure as hell can guess, having witnessed this scene many times
before.

Like I said, this teacher is NOT trained to deal with this kid.
And the kid played him like a violin.

The teacher will not be fired- there is no one willing to work in this class.
TRUST me.
BHN

BHN

[FedUpWithIt All]

60. You are judging this child with no more information than the rest of us have witnessed.

Why exactly are you suggesting THIS child is manipulative? The video doesn't show manipulation on the part of the child but it CERTAINLY DOES on the part of the much bigger and more powerful teacher. This teacher even insults the child as diminutive and suggests he should become a jockey. The child was well within his rights to ask the teacher to stop calling him "Special". and the teacher did not get upset about anything the boy said UNTIL he misunderstood him and believed the boy had threatened him, WHICH DID NOT HAPPEN.

With no more evidence than the video shows you are labeling this boy as disruptive and manipulative. You are typing him and that is highly offensive. You even suggested that Detention is in the future of children "like" him. Why? Because he possibly (and i say possibly because you certainly know nothing more of this boy than what is mentioned in the media and what is shown in the video) emotionally disturbed. Because he has a condition like PTSD?


I have PTSD, would you call me disruptive or manipulative? Would you presume to make these types of assessments about me based on that diagnosis? Anticipate a future for me? I doubt it. So why is it ok to do that with this child that YOU DO NOT KNOW?

[BeHereNow]

63. I repeat. GO visit a SDC classroom full of gang bangers.

Then we can talk.
Until you experience it, there can be no meaningful discussion about it.
BHN

[FedUpWithIt All]

67. How upsetting that you are involved in some way with children in a classroom. n/t

[BeHereNow]

75. Wanna talk about it with some of my former students?

I have changed lives for the better.
You?
What have you done for this student population that
the system doesn't give a shit about?

BHN

[nini]

76. I've looked for info on Julio being a gang banger

do you have a link?

If you're assuming that - is it because he's Hispanic?

I hope you've switched careers since you obviously hate your job.

[whathehell]

82. LOL. n/t

[whathehell]

61. This kid is not "sdc"......He's got ADHD and PTSD.

and if that sick fuck of a "teacher" can't handle it, he needs to go into acccounting, or something.

[BeHereNow]

64. And your background qualifies you how?

Just wondering about your basis for diagnosis.
Having worked with these kids since 1993, I'm just wondering
what YOUR background is.

Respectfully, and I sincerely mean that-
BHN

[whathehell]

69. What particular "background" does one need to read?...I didn't "diagnose" this student

his school did it for him.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-11-18/news/30412335_1_web-teacher-student

[BeHereNow]

65. Please- tell me what you know, LEGALLY, about how students end up in SDC classes-

Just wondering if you actually have any experience about how the
system works.
Because so far, you have not exhibited anything close to knowledge about it.
BHN

[whathehell]

70. Why don't you take this up with the other self-identified special needs teachers on this thread

who seem to feel as I do?

If you don't like my credentials,

try theirs.:eyes:

[BeHereNow]

71. Only if they have taught in a room like this one.

Upon further reading, I discovered this kid was kicked out of the regular
public school special education program for his behavior.
In other words, he was placed with the students who have one foot
in jail and the other in the "last stop school."

Eventually- his background will come to light.
I can't wait.

BHN

[whathehell]

72. Fine..A decent adult STILL doesn't call a 15 year old in Special Ed a "tard" in front of his class

I'm sure you "can't wait" until his background comes to light...Unfortunately,

I doubt this will redeem this loathsome man in the eyes of anyone but you...Oh,

wait...He's already been unjustly "maligned" in your view.:eyes:

[BeHereNow]

74. Look- you have NO idea how the system works.

This "teacher" has no training in dealing with this kid.
NOT his fault.
Administration is to blame here.
Placing this teacher in this position was an administrative FAIL.
There was no one else to teach this class because NO person in their right mind would want the job.
Especially some one who is not trained in dealing with this student population.

I don't know where you live- but if by chance you live in an area
with alternative schools, I REALLY suggest you go and observe a class like this.
You wont last ten minutes.

And you'll be lucky to make it out of there with your wallet, cell phone and sanity.
In short- you have NO clue what this teacher goes through on a daily basis.
The "kids" have ALL the rights- the teachers have none, no training and NO administrative support.
I speak from experience.
I have had a good deal of success with these kids- and trust me, without
proper training, it would not be possible.
This teacher has NO tools to deal with with the situation.
Again- this is an ADMINISTRATIVE FAIL, because they don't GIVE a DAMN about these kids
and have a VERY hard time filling these positions.
No one wants the job.
BHN

[nini]

77. Administrative fail?

Why didn't the poor abused teacher get the hell out of that job if he couldn't handle it?

Sorry, but putting full blame on the Admin is ridiculous..I didn't see them holding a gun to that teacher's head when he lost his freaking mind.

How about they all failed the kid?

Your defiant defense of this when you were not in the classroom to know the facts is amazing. No doubt working with behavior challenged kids can be a nightmare..but there really are dick'ish teachers out there that abuse their authority - luckily this one got caught on tape.

[whathehell]

80. AGAIN -- Why won't you argue this with the OTHER special ed teachers here?..

Afraid of not having the ADVANTAGE of not being able to tell THEM they "don't know what they're talking about"?

If you were REALLY confident in your opinion, it seems to me, you would "share" it with them...Why haven't you?

[nini]

78. It's not the teacher's fault - it's the administration's..

don't you get that yet? :sarcasm:

The teacher is an angel and victim here. :eyes:

[BeHereNow]

79. Go teach this class for a day and get back to me.

bhn

[nini]

83. You keep saying that. yet YOU were not in that particular classroom at that time either

So.. the fact you hate your job and had issues with bad kids does NOT mean this teacher isn't a dick and was out of line.

Your refusal to entertain that guy just might be a jerk of the highest order would be funny if the stakes weren't so high.

I'd imagine being teacher of special needs kids is like being a cop - some of them abuse their authority role and not everyone is capable of doing the job because of the high degree of patience and control required. It takes a special person to do that job - but that doesn't mean there aren't some bad ones.

That teacher is a bad one. Quit defending him because you insult all the good teachers out there in doing so.

[whathehell]

81. Of course...Unfortunately, the other Special Ed teachers don't seem to be agreeing with that.

I get you.:hippie:

[lonestarnot]

54. Fucking idiot needs some special treatment himself. He's prolle gona get some. I can't look at

that. Just the sound of it enrages me!