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Sun Nov-27-11 08:37 AM
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I Told You So! I Told You So! Newt is going to be it. |
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I've been saying for the last two years that Newt will be the 2012 Republican Candidate for President. Not one person out of a hundred has agreed with me. Today the Manchester Union Leader agrees with me, they have endorsed him.
Republicans are easier to understand, and train, than dogs. You can always tell what they are going to do next.
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:40 AM
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1. meh, he's the flavor of the week/month. |
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I think it'll be Romney in the end.
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:42 AM
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2. Glad to see you are doing well but what meds do they have you on? |
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The Manchester Union Leader? Really?
When the New York Times endorses him let me know.
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:46 AM
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5. The Liar has a huge influence on NH politics and right now, the Republican ball... |
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...is in the Iowa and New Hampshire voters' courts.
The New York Times doesn't mean Jack Shit to these folks.
On the other hand, Romney still has a huge lead in NH polling and there are only five weeks to go to the NH Primary. I'm still predicting that Mitt will win the NH Primary and eventually, the General Election.
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:54 AM
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11. You are predicting that Romney will win the General Election?...nt |
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:05 AM
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19. I've been predicting it for months. |
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If:
1. the Republicans have the good sense to nominate Romney and
2. the Economy remains where it is or worsens and
3. Obama keeps pissing off traditional Strong Democratic interests groups (Labor, peace activists, marijuana smokers, gays, women, etc.) one-by-one, then
Romney wins the General Election easily.
Two weeks ago, The New York Times agreed with me.
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:51 AM
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7. You may have a point there. |
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Actually I'm down to just OxyCodone now and by next tuesday I will be drug free.
If reason had much to do with it the Republicans would land on Huntsman, Romney, or Newt if they were picking from their own crop of wannabees. And all three of them are reasonable choices in one sense or another. One's got brains, one's got money, and one's got deep Government experience. But reason has little to do with it. If the Republican's are consistent about anything it is this, they give their nominations to the guy's who's turn it is. Newt has been in line for decades, now its his turn. He is perfectly willing to take up the cause of the person who is in front of his face at the moment and change it the next - and that will always get you votes. He can raise all the money he needs.
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:07 AM
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22. Actually, all three have brains; any of those three are dangerous. |
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Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 09:07 AM by Tesha
We'd be much better off if the Republicans were to nominate one of the obvious clowns, but eventually the adults in the party will step in and prevent that.
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:16 AM
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25. Newt is an obvious clown |
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:23 AM
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30. No one who rose to be Speaker of The House (and was, in fact, the architect... |
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...of hisParty's take-over that enabled that succession) can be dismissed as "a clown". Bush was a clown and look where he ended up!
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:44 AM
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3. A whole year ahead of the elections? |
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Nothing is that predictable. Especially not in election season.
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:45 AM
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The nomination might well be sewn up in 3 months. |
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:17 AM
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This is no ordinary bunch of candidates. These are all candidates the GOP itself hates. And they keep stumbling and falling flat on their faces. The rug marks and skid marks on their faces are glaring.
But I don't think we have much to fear. The great majority of Americans will not vote for someone who sneeringly tells them they need to take a bath and get a job. This dismal group of candidates will never offer up a President that will represent the entire country. They aren't even trying.
No matter what anyone thinks of Obama no one can say he isn't trying to represent the vast majority of people, if not ideologies. Bush only represented the monied and the Neo Cons. These candidates represent mostly the idiocrats who are backed by the 1%. And the idiocrats are wielding cattle prods which they love to use.
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:45 AM
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4. The Union Leader endorsed John McCain, so |
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:50 AM
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6. Union Leader has always hated Romney, that's why they gave it to Newt. |
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They are also batshit crazy, and have always been so. They aren't the be-all or the end-all, by a long shot. They no longer represent most NH Republicans.
Newt has to get past the image of his "First Lady" Calista--who is way too young for him, AND his THIRD wife--blowing him under the Speaker's desk in the minds of the voting public. Marianne (Number 2) is still alive and living in FL. She didn't sign any nondisclosure agreements, and she's chatty at times.
Newt is using this little shindig to increase his profile, so he'll get more gigs on TV, either as a pay-per-pundit or a regular schtick with a regular paycheck. He wants to sell his books, be the smartass know-it-all who sees things better than his peers, and who will play the "I toldjaso" game any time anything goes amiss.
If Romney steps on it totally, my pick is Huntsman.
But who knows, really? No one's flung any real dirt...YET. Wait till that shit starts!
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:55 AM
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13. I'm looking forward to that. And, added to the mix... |
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I read yesterday that Gary Johnson is going to make a third party run. It wouldn't surprise me if Ron Paul does the same, and runs as a Libertarian as he did in 2008, IIRC. Stocking up on the popcorn...
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:52 AM
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I cannot believe ANYONE thinks that nasty, crooked POS would be even remotely acceptable for the Presidency. What a bunch of truly fucked-up people.
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:54 AM
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10. Isn't it unbelieveable? |
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:58 AM
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14. I can believe anything at this point |
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:04 AM
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17. Now that you mention it... |
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Yeah, I don't know why this surprises me, when you take him into consideration. Not "unbelievable", but thoroughly disgusting.
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:03 AM
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16. That's the Useless Litter for ya.......... |
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Yes, the staff and especially the management/ownership of the Union Leader are extremely screwed.
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:53 AM
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9. Tomorrows headline: "Bain Capital buys Manchester Union Leader, fires entire staff" |
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:55 AM
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12. "Republicans are easier to understand, and train, than dogs." A good description. Just |
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follow the money and control over people, and the trail of human misery, destruction and death left in its wake. That's a right-wing fascist for you.
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:04 AM
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18. Yep, that pretty much covers it. |
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There is an old cliché about how Republicans pick their Presidential Candidates; they take the guy who's next in line. How else can anyone explain John McCain's candidacy? "It was his turn", that's the answer.
And who else they got? Mitt is out there and would make a fine candidate, but he's a mouse that is easily pushed around on stage and that alone would kill him with the american viewing public. Of course he's got a more fundamental problem. The fundamentalist Christian's will never accept him as one of their own. Jesus did not fly around on spaceships and magic underwear are blasphemous at their skid-marked core.
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:23 AM
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"Magic underwear are blasphemous at their skid-marked core." The thought of them getting skid-marked never occurred to me. LOL!
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:00 AM
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15. Nope. That's not how the GOP plays. It's Romney's turn, so he will be nominated. |
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Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 09:02 AM by Atman
Newt cannot win a general election. He has more baggage than a jumbo jet and more flip flops than a surf shop. Besides, he doesn't want it. He wants to keep whoring it up and selling his crappy books. He doesn't even campaign, fer chrissake! He just shows up to the weekly debates, says something vile to keep his name in the news cycle, then goes out to pound back a few whiskies and bang a D.C. call girl. Being president is actual hard work, and that is the last thing Newt wants.
The Useless Leader, as it is affectionately known in New Hampshire, is just one small-city newspaper. In the end, Romney will get the nomination because he was in line to get the nomination. The base Republicans hate him, but no one else in the current group of GOP candidates can beat Obama anyway, so the powers brokers will just let Romney have it. He's rich as shit and he'll just keep spreading the wealth and run again in 2016 anyway. And that's the prize the GOP really wants, not the Titanic that is currently sailing full speed ahead into an iceberg of global calamity.
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:06 AM
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21. Romney's turn? Shit, Newt was standing in line as Mitt was being fitted for his 1st magic underwear |
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:40 AM
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34. But he abdicated. He was censured, he dropped out. |
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He left the game and took up lobbying, forever poisoning himself. He's not a serious contender.
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:44 AM
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:06 AM
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20. Well, when Bill Clinton finds something to praise....... |
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/26/bill_clinton_praises_newt_hes_articulate_and_attracts_independents.htmlFormer President Bill Clinton tells Newsmax: “He's articulate and he tries to think of a conservative version of an idea that will solve a legitimate problem,” Clinton said, by way of explaining the Gingrich resurgence. "For example, I watched the national security debate last night. And Newt said two things that would make an independent voter say, ‘Well, I gotta consider that.’"
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:59 AM
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38. This drives me up a wall. |
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Clinton, of all people, ought to be calling Gingrich what he is: a political opportunist with no end to his hypocrisy. A vain little man who is not nearly as smart as he gives himself credit for.
On the other hand, maybe Clinton does want to clear the field for Newt, so he can have fun going after him in the GE. Newt would be a better candidate for Democrats than Mittens...there's a lot of low hanging fruit in Newt's tree.
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:11 AM
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23. I honestly don't see it |
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:13 AM
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24. They are harder to potty train though.... |
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:21 AM
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28. Maybe the newspaper thinks the wolverine |
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can beat the skunk. Romney is such a cut-out figure he can only play that card for so long. He stinks but Newt is the meanest one on the entire slate.
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:32 AM
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32. still don't believe it |
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:38 AM
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33. They also endorsed Steve Forbes. |
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Just reported on the Chris Hayes show.
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:45 AM
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36. FYI, in 2000 the Useless Leader endorsed Steve Forbes. In 2008 John McCain. |
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Not exactly a stellar track record.
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:49 AM
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37. I would love to believe it, but I don't see how newt overcomes mitt's |
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Sun Nov-27-11 10:53 AM
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39. Newt the Puke is carrying the GOPer Flag...for now...Jon Huntsman gonna snipe him with 3 pretty |
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daughters and end up as the Nom
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Sun Nov-27-11 10:54 AM
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40. The baggage Newt has should make Obama a winner. |
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Sun Nov-27-11 10:56 AM
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41. Newt is simply the flavor of the month, |
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Much like Cain, Perry and Bachman were. Sooner, rather than later, Newt's past will catch up with him, he will fuck up, and then drop back down into political oblivion.
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Sun Nov-27-11 10:58 AM
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42. I dunno - I still think they could surprise us all and trot out Jeb Bush during convention. |
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They are all loser candidates right now and I can't imagine that Repubs with brains (I know, oxymoron) couldn't see that ...
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Sun Nov-27-11 11:22 AM
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43. I think Newt is running for Vice President |
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He wants to be like his hero, Dick Cheney. The power behind the throne. The president of the senate. The easier job with much less stress.
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