Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Indiana: Parents can't get information on what takeover charter schools will offer.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:22 PM
Original message
Indiana: Parents can't get information on what takeover charter schools will offer.
These parents want to know simple everyday things about the way their schools are being "turned around."

"Turnaround" is one of the options offered when districts get Race to the Top money. These charters schools, in this case Charter Schools USA, get to take over schools and get the money once given to the school district and its public schools.

Indiana is closely following the ideas of Jeb Bush and his Foundation for Excellence in Education.

The Indianapolis Star reports that Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels "would like to adopt everything Bush described — and more." State superintendent of public instruction Tony Bennett was equally enthusiastic, the Louisville Courier-Journal reports.

"There is nothing off the table in the areas of freedom, competition and accountability," Bennett told the Courier-Journal.


It appears that the schools which are being closed and turned around into charter schools do not have to let the parents know anything at all in a timely manner. They will not know until next spring what programs the schools will offer or how they will be set up.

From the Indy Star:

http://www.indystar.com/article/20111126/LOCAL18/111260333/Parents-can-t-get-information-what-takeover-schools-will-offer?odyssey=mod">mostcom| Parents can't get information on what takeover schools will offer

(the link looks odd, but it does work)

The type of information parents need, such as which programs, curriculum and extracurricular activities will be provided -- will not be approved and made public until probably spring, according to an IDOE official.

"I want to know, 'Are you having honors classes? What will the honors classes be like? What sports are you offering?' " Shaffer said. "I want to plan now."

Actually, parents of students in takeover schools need to plan now -- because, in some cases, time is running out. For example, one option parents might consider is placing their child in an Indianapolis Public Schools magnet program. But the application deadline is Dec. 15
-- perhaps months before parents will know how the takeover operators intend to run their schools.


Profiting from taxpayer money...this is a good example of it.

The state is paying $3.8 million total to the takeover operators this year to plan for next year's takeover. That money is coming out of federal school improvement grant dollars and covers tasks such as training and evaluating the staff, gathering community feedback and creating an action plan.


That is most likely Race to the Top money. Then later they will get more money:

Beginning next school year, the state will redirect to the turnaround operators aid it normally sends to the local school districts to educate each student. Out of that amount, the turnaround school operators will pay to run the school and retain a fee for their services.

Companies that manage schools for a fee typically operate that way, with an agreed-upon maximum percentage the company can keep as profit.


That in my mind leaves no doubt that taxpayer money is being taken from public schools and being handed freely to private companies. Some may call themselves non-profit...but they are profiting from money that the public schools will no longer have.

Remember Edison Schools, the ones that Jeb Bush bailed out in Florida with our pension money?

"Edison's collapse would have been a major embarrassment for boosters of educational privatization--that is, if an unlikely white knight hadn't come to the rescue, purchasing the company for $182 million. Edison's savior, ironically, was the Florida Retirement System (FRS)--the pension fund for public employees, roughly half of them teachers, whose union has vigorously criticized both Edison and privatization. The purchase, made by Liberty Partners, an investment firm that made private equity investments exclusively with FRS money, not only put the retirement security of public employees at risk; it financially underwrote the cause of privatization, which public employee unions oppose as a threat to jobs and the pensions of its members. But neither public employees nor their unions had a voice in the matter."


Well, guess what? They are playing a big role in Indiana now.

Edison Learning, the New York company taking over the school in Gary, provides an example. The company has worked for a decade with Perry Township, where it runs Rosa Parks and Jeremiah Gray elementary schools. Under that contract, the company receives $6,690 per student -- 1,245 students total -- to cover the costs of operating the schools and their fees. Edison makes a profit of about $200,000 annually.


That $6,690 is money that is no longer going to public schools. Where is the outrage about this blending of public and private in such a blatant way?




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:23 PM
Response to Original message
1. recommend
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:24 PM
Response to Original message
2. "adopt everything Bush described" ... wait a minute ...
this is the "president" they call "liberal" (well, long after they called him "possibly the greatest Conservative President EVER" early in his pResidency)???
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nobodyspecial Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:09 AM
Response to Reply #2
7. You might want to fix that.
The Indianapolis Star reports that Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels "would like to adopt everything Bush described — and more." State superintendent of public instruction Tony Bennett was equally enthusiastic, the Louisville Courier-Journal reports.

This isn't attributed to Obama. It is attributed to Daniels, who is a Republican, who also happened to serve under Bush. So, big surprise he would adopt and support Bush policies.

Last time I checked, Obama wasn't running the school system in Indiana.

Make your points, but don't lie and distort. Surely, you have higher standards than Fox news.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:47 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. hmm...
"Last time I checked, Obama wasn't running the school system in Indiana."

No, but Mr. Obama is responsible for appointing Arne Duncan, and for maintaining key parts of the vile and much maligned NCLB legislation (repackaged as RTTT). Furthermore, Mr. Obama derided the teachers who protested his appointment of Arne Duncan, accusing them of being "resistant to change."

So, Obama may not be 'running' the school system in Indiana, but he is certainly complicit in 'ruining' the school system there--and across the nation.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nobodyspecial Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 02:12 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. Yes, I'm sure that's his goal. You busted him.
And the main point of my post was putting words in Obama's mouth that were not attributed to him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 08:52 AM
Response to Reply #10
13. Really?
Your unwarranted sarcasm is irrelevant to the point I made.

Furthermore, I never refuted the "main point" of your post. Instead, I observed that Mr. Obama IS complicit in the continued destruction of public education.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 02:40 AM
Response to Reply #7
12. Actually Obama supported Jeb's efforts, appeared with him in Miami.
He has some clarifying to do about that. If he supports the efforts of Jeb to privatize, then he is okay with what Indiana is doing.

He is not speaking up, and he is giving Arne free rein.

It is not right for Obama to appear with Jeb at a Florida school as teachers fight for their rights.

So, at this point in time, when teachers in Wisconsin and elsewhere feel besieged, I’m wondering why Obama and Education Secretary Arne Duncan are flying to Florida to be with Republicans who have been part of the attack force. Why, when teachers are fighting for union rights, does the president decide to spend time with anti-teachers union school reformers?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #7
14. "president" ... meaning Daniels was referring to Bush ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #2
15. Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels used to be Bush's
economic advisor......
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:52 AM
Response to Reply #15
19. And Reagan's. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wakemewhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:27 PM
Response to Original message
3. K&R. Thank you for compiling and presenting this information.
The move towards privatization of public education is a frightening slippery slope. These private companies are not staging takeovers out of the goodness of their corporate hearts. Privatization of public schools at the most fundamental, conceptual level.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:40 PM
Response to Original message
4. A totalitarian regime offers no choices.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lindysalsagal Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:37 PM
Response to Original message
5. Same as privatizing the post office; No longer egalitarian: It's profits baby!
Gotta keep those shareholders happy. Screw the kids.

It's true that there are problems in public schools, but at least the community has someone to vote off the school board or administrators they can fire. In these charter schools, good luck getting anyone to take your call, or admit anything that's going on.
Sooner or later, this will go the way of the teabaggers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:50 AM
Response to Original message
6. Public money there goes to school that uses Jonah and the Whale as a class lesson.
There was a recent coverage by PBS of Indiana school voucher choice.

PBS looks at Indiana school choice

Learning Matters, the New York City production company responsible for the education segments on PBS NewsHour and John Merrow's first-rate documentaries, visited Indiana recently to look at the new choice options set in place by the Republican-controlled legislature. Watch it here.


Be sure to watch the video! It is heartbreaking to see public education come to this.

Rep. Ed DeLaney, D-Indianapolis, offers the measured, sensible counterpoint to state Superintendent Tony Bennett's enthusiastic support for choice.

"These schools are like little car companies and they are all announcing 'I've made the greatest new car.' No proof, no evidence, no history. This is not a scientific experiment. It's an attempt, in my view, just to push down public education," DeLaney says.

The visit to Anderson's Liberty Christian School, where the classroom lesson is the story of Jonah and the whale, is eye-opening, as is the principal's response to producer John Tulenko's question about special education services.

"I'm not equipped to meet their needs" is likely the new catch phrase for schools of choice.


Amen...they do not have to keep special ed students. They just send them back to public schools, and then they brag about their test scores...that is if they are even required to take them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:48 AM
Response to Original message
9. Easy. Their kids will be taught how to take standardized tests. Period. When they enter the work
force, they will be unable to get jobs, because all they will know is how to take standardized tests. They will flunk out of college when they are unable to derive a formula or write a paper.

In about four to six years, the shit will hit the fan as kids from "exemplary" schools who "Ace" the SATS are revealed for the ignorant, undereducated losers that the charter schools have made them. At that point, standardized tests will be judged unreliable, and the charter schools will close their doors. Public schools will find no qualified teachers, and the public will have to spend a gazillion dollars financing the educations of a whole new generation of teachers. And the US will find its high tech industries in the toilet as employers are unable to find workers at home. Oh well, maybe we can bring over a bunch of Indians to fill our jobs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 02:27 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. And they will know about Jonah...
:shrug: Did you see the video? That teacher was sickening..

I find it hard to accept this is happening. I keep waiting for someone with influence to speak out against it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 05:20 PM
Response to Original message
16. What's happening with public schools
is just part of the de fact full spectrum privatization of the public domain in America. K-12 public education is a juicy plumb. About $600 billion is spent on it annually. Everyone with big money and power is backing it and has been for years, including many poor, targeted and misinformed urban parents. These things take time though. Privatizing public schools began with "A Nation at Risk" in 1983 and still has away to go. Public universities will be next. In fact that takeover has already begun and will accelerate when the student loan bubble deflates.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. They are already starting the hostile takeover of universities here in our state.
They just don't call it that yet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 08:12 PM
Response to Original message
18. The hostile takeover of Public Education is last "Mountain" in Christian Dominionism's "7 Mountains"
First there was Rev. Rick Warren and Donnie "ex-gay" McClurkin. Now, Obama prays with the Oak Initiative Christian Dominionists during the Easter holiday. And then they delivered sermons on Church-State Governship. A pattern emerges..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 07:41 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC