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Sun Nov-27-11 06:46 PM
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I have been saying for weeks that OWS will experience it's own Kent State |
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Before this is all over and Coulter's comments only reinforce this view.
It is unfortunate- but how long would we have been in Vietnam if it had not been for that horrid act. How long would the Indian people been oppressed if many unarmed peaceful protesters, following the vision of Ghandi, had not been gunned down?I have been saying for weeks that there will be a Kent State before this is all over. Not hopeful- completely dreaded- how many? How young? How old? How many tours of duty had the been on? How many fires had they put out? How many lives have they saved, will save? How many will I have personally known? And how paraded would the cover-up be all over the main-stream media?And how many of our visionaries be assassinated after the fact? It is not really a comfort to know that this extreme government intervention will only inevitably sway public opinion so ardently towards the goals of the protest- as well as actually stinging what little conscience those in power have left- that there would be no other viable (politically and morally) option. The real comfort will come after the fact, when even if their names are not remembered by most- their legacy will completely change the course of human history. It is the survivors duty to make sure the path continues upward. That the future generations of not only this country, but the world, will be so much better than our own- and that they continue to ascend to the apex of humanity. Solidarity
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Sun Nov-27-11 06:48 PM
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1. BETTER FUCKING NOT...especially as I'm tonight headed into the mess... |
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Sun Nov-27-11 07:01 PM
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3. Please be careful. All of you. |
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Sun Nov-27-11 07:03 PM
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4. I will be careful, but I will not back down. This is Constitution-level stuff. We cannot be silent! |
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:43 PM
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Just breath, be peaceful. It will all unfold like it's supposed to.
Strength ON!
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Mon Nov-28-11 05:30 AM
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21. I failed. I went with folks who had more sense than I when it became obvious that |
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protesters were demanding the cops come. I had planned to stay outside any perimeter and photo what I could. Turns out the perimeter was set not across the street, but a block or more outside of the protest, not visible, NOT ANNOUNCED. They were not allowing people out of the areas they'd cordoned. I have no idea if it has since gotten ugly in there, but the entire idea of inside the park/outside the park okay with being arrested inside the park/those not okay with being arrested nearby to insure peaceful treatment and to document anything not, was blown before the curfew.
I'm 50, I'm not 20 anymore, as much as I'd like to be. I toyed with the idea of getting arrested but I have complications...and I'm told that one significant protester isn't all that jazzed about the idea either. Am I a coward? I guess I am. I buggered off, I skarkered.
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Mon Nov-28-11 06:37 PM
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23. No dude you're freaking awesome! |
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I just turned 50 too! LOVING it, been pretty lucky- near daily yoga, green smoothie almost every morn,
working toward preventing foreclosures here with Cape Cod Occ. May very well lead to arrest. Some will choose not too, but these people are just as important to the cause. They hold the bail $$, or the camera, or 100's of other important support positions. You just being there last night was a VICTORY!
Your posts keep me going bro! I may not always comment, but do know they mean a lot. love, peace, and keep joy in your heart no matter what!
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Sun Nov-27-11 07:20 PM
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I was at the GA last night.
I thought I saw ya there but I wasn't sure.
Can't make it tonight...stay safe.
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Sun Nov-27-11 06:54 PM
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2. and if it's to be successful, that will only be the beginning.... |
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Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 06:56 PM by mike_c
How many have Egyptian police and military killed so far? How about Yemen, or Syria? Although nonviolent revolution is most likely to succeed, it is a big mistake to assume that it won't be met with violence. We have many stages to go through still, and the unrestful summers of 1967 and 68 only provide examples of the first, early stages-- that revolution ultimately sputtered out and failed. There will be massive violence against OWS. It must stand against the worst a threatened oligarchy can throw at it with full government support.
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Sun Nov-27-11 07:07 PM
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6. None that I know off but thanks for your concern. |
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Sun Nov-27-11 07:09 PM
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7. so many concerned about OWS |
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Sun Nov-27-11 07:10 PM
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8. Well it is a direct challenge |
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I can't stop it...it was..predictable. So has the government response.
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:18 PM
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14. the desperate need to attract attention |
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Hmmm.
Maybe their desperate need for attention is to highlight things in the U.S. that desperately need attention -- such as these, as just one example:
17.2 million: The number of households that were food insecure in 2010, the highest number on record. They make up 14.5 percent of households, or approximately one in seven.
48.8 million: People who lived in food insecure households last year.
3.9 million: The number of households with children that were food insecure last year. In 1 percent of households with children, “one or more of the children experienced the most severe food-insecure condition measured by USDA, very low food security, in which meals were irregular and food intake was below levels considered adequate by caregivers.”
6.4 million: Households that experienced very low food security last year, meaning “normal eating patterns of one or more household members were disrupted and food intake was reduced at times during the year because they had insufficient money or other resources for food.”
55: The percentage of food-insecure households that participated in one or more of the three largest Federal food and nutrition assistance programs (SNAP, WIC, School lunch program).
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19.4: The percentage of food insecure households in Mississippi, which had the highest rate in the nation last year.
3.6 percent: The amount by which food prices increased last year.
30 percent: The amount by which food insecurity grew during the Great Recession.
44: The percentage increase in households using food pantries between 2007 and 2009.
20 million: The number of children who benefit from free and reduced lunch per day.
10.5 million: The number of eligible children who don’t receive their free and reduced lunch benefits.
$167.5 billion: The amount that the U.S. lost in 2010 due to hunger (lost educational attainment + avoidable illness + charitable giving to fight hunger). This doesn’t take into account the $94 billion cost of SNAP and other food programs.
8: The number of states (FL, TX, CA, IL, NY, OH, PA, GA) where the annual cost of hunger exceeds $6 billion.
via nationofchange.org
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Sun Nov-27-11 07:19 PM
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9. None. But should it happen, I fervently hope for dire retribution. |
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Sun Nov-27-11 08:08 PM
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That's a pretty damning charge to be leveling with no evidence. Also, that's not what "begs the question" means. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begs_the_question
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Sun Nov-27-11 10:26 PM
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17. But I see no reason to even ask that question. |
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Do you have any kind of evidence at all? You could ask all kind of questions about what kinds of hopes people are secretly harboring, but without evidence, what's the point?
In all respect, I think there may be an organized effort on the right to spread the idea, and you've been fooled by it. Think about what you're saying here. Is asking this question really helping anybody?
I know you don't intend it this way, but raising the question can be seen as being pretty much the same as making the accusation.
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Sun Nov-27-11 11:08 PM
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18. "A few martyrs never hurt a movement", how many secretly want deaths? SHAME on you |
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"Look how much mileage the Scott Olsen incident got. A few martyrs never hurt a movement."
SHAME on you. Seriously.
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Sun Nov-27-11 11:33 PM
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The 4 murdered students and the 9 wounded students were UNARMED and thusly no threat to the ONG. Get it?
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Sun Nov-27-11 09:23 PM
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15. The pigs are salivating at the prospect of murdering protestors with the backing of the state. |
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Mon Nov-28-11 06:19 PM
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22. The Stupids will do their best ... |
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to prove you correct.
I think OWS can muster 100,000 in DC within 5 days of the trigger.
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