Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

S. 1867 (NDAA) on CSPAN live:

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 02:53 PM
Original message
S. 1867 (NDAA) on CSPAN live:
Edited on Mon Nov-28-11 03:22 PM by Earth_First
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:15 PM
Response to Original message
1. Scarey stuff - Full discussion of what the bill means over at ACLU website
http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/senators-demand-military-lock-american-citizens-battlefield-they-define-being
<snip>
The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this president—and every future president — the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. Even Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) raised his concerns about the NDAA detention provisions during last night’s Republican debate. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself.

The worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial provision is in S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which will be on the Senate floor on Monday. The bill was drafted in secret by Sens. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) and passed in a closed-door committee meeting, without even a single hearing.


####
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:21 PM
Response to Original message
2. Amendments being discussed now -CSPAN
Edited on Mon Nov-28-11 03:22 PM by Earth_First

Doesn't sound like they will get to a vote earlier than Thursday based on McCain/Levin address
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mrarundale Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 07:07 PM
Response to Original message
3. I don't understand where the "arrest US citizens" comes from
this is under 1032, and it seems unambiguous:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.1867:


(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the


It basically sound like martial law to me, though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 03:04 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC