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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:51 PM
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Haven't read 1984? - It's available online if you want to read it
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 01:01 PM by Aerows
Now you can if you have an internet connection.

http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/0.html

It's worth a read if you haven't already.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:52 PM
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1. Good to know. Thanks! nt
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:55 PM
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2. It was a good find, IMHO
If somebody isn't able to get to the library, at least they can get it in a browser :)
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:57 PM
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3. ++Good!
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:58 PM
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4. LMAO
Double-plus good, indeed :D
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:58 PM
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5. Give it a little more time and we will be living in it...nt
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:59 PM
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6. That's why more people need to read it. n/t
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:21 PM
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16. Orwell wrote that in 1948 because we already were living in it.
One of the illusions of the Inner Party is that you don't know it's happening.



--imm
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:31 PM
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26. Never hurts to introduce people to the book
and to see what we are fighting against.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:50 PM
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29. Kidding? I taught this book as literature.
Teaching out of license, I needed a novel for a high school group. I picked the one that I had read the most times. Also the best written, or one of them.

It went well. I bet those students are occupying somewhere now.

--imm

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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:01 PM
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7. Awesome!
I have not read 1984 and have LOTS of free time on my hands at work. This version will allow me to read at work without the appearance of actually reading a book :)

Thank you :hi:
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:03 PM
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10. Glad to help :)
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 01:04 PM by Aerows
That's just why I posted the link when I found it :D
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:03 PM
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8. great find!
A classic that everyone needs to read. ( and in my case re-read over and over... lol)

:hi:
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:08 PM
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11. I'm just glad it is out there
A lot of people may not have time or the means to get to a library, but if you get here, you can get there to read it, if you want to do so.
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:26 PM
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17. so much of our modern language came
directly from this book and so many people have no idea where the terminology actually came from. "Big Brother" is even downplayed by having a stupid tv show by the same name.
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Puzzledtraveller Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:03 PM
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9. INGSOC
Oligarchical collectivism, English Socialism (INGSOC)
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:29 PM
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25. Knowledge is power :)
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:12 PM
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12. Animal Farm is also available there
Along with a bunch of other Orwell works.

Enjoy!

Animal Farm:

http://www.george-orwell.org/Animal_Farm/index.html
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:15 PM
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13. One of the greatest books of all time. n/t
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:18 PM
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14. Required reading for these times, imho n/t
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:21 PM
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15. Double plus good.
And Big Brother can read over your shoulder. ;-)
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:31 PM
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18. LOL
But at least you get the knowledge.
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:37 PM
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19. The Giver
is a great book for older children and teens in case you haven't read it. It's basically a softer version of a dystopian society. There is a YA book called "Matched" that, while not extremely well written is very thought-provoking.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:46 PM
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20. I haven't read that one, but I will look it up!
Thanks for the recommendation.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:52 PM
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21. As far I'm aware
you'll also find the whole film in parts on Youtube.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:04 PM
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22. Nice!
It would be great to post links to it :)

I'm just trying to help out those who may not have immediate access to a library read a good work.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:58 PM
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33. Links here
First of all this the whole of the BBC's one that they did back in 1954 in black and white :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hATC_2I1wZE

And here's the later one with Richard Burton and John Hurt in parts . That was released in the year 1984 .

1984 The Movie - part1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdyKJ1xXph8
1984 The Movie - part2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55d7gMLqxqc
1984 The Movie - part3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_omI0ZkdvY

etc etc - just keep changing the suffix number and stick with the same Youtube user ID landofheroes

I'm sure I've posted this lot in the video section before - long ways back ?
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C. lupus familiaris Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:18 PM
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23. Great site!
I'm going to re-read 1984 and other Orwell, along with some related things.

First, though, I want to read We by Yevgeny Zamyatin, at least.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_(novel).

(...)
"George Orwell averred that Aldous Huxley's Brave New World (1932) must be partly derived from We.<10> However, in a 1962 letter to Christopher Collins, Huxley says that he wrote Brave New World as a reaction to H.G. Wells' utopias long before he had heard of We.<11> According to We translator Natasha Randall, Orwell believed that Huxley was lying.<12> Kurt Vonnegut said that in writing Player Piano (1952) he "cheerfully ripped off the plot of Brave New World, whose plot had been cheerfully ripped off from Yevgeny Zamyatin's We."<13>
Ayn Rand's Anthem (1938) has several similarities to We, although it is stylistically and thematically different.<14>

George Orwell began Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949) some eight months after he read We in a French translation and wrote a review of it.<15> Orwell is reported as "saying that he was taking it as the model for his next novel."<16> Brown writes that for Orwell and certain others, We "appears to have been the crucial literary experience."<17> Shane states that "Zamyatin's influence on Orwell is beyond dispute".<18> Russell, in an overview of the criticism of We, concludes that "1984 shares so many features with We that there can be no doubt about its general debt to it", however there is a minority of critics who view the similarities between We and 1984 as "entirely superficial". Further, Russell finds "that Orwell's novel is both bleaker and more topical than Zamyatin's, lacking entirely that ironic humour that pervades the Russian work."<11>
(...)

(I have not tried these)links from the wikipedia article:
Full text of We - http://mises.org/books/we_zamiatin.pdf
Audio recording - http://www.audiobooksforfree.com/download/default.asp?refnum=1000365
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:42 PM
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24. Thanks for your additional links
I love sharing the library with the world - some just don't have the time or the means to make it there, but we can all help spread knowledge :D
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:41 PM
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28. Oh, and glad it was useful to you
That was the entire reason I posted it.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:37 PM
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27. I'm trying to spread the link around
So that those who want to read it, can do so.
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:55 PM
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30. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. (Pizza is a vegetable)
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 05:16 PM by backtoblue
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:58 PM
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31. Thank you :). I read it many years ago and have been meaning to
do it again. This is great.
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malthaussen Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:00 PM
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32. Wasn't there an OWS poster or something...
... that read "1984 was not intended to be a how-to book?"

-- Mal
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 08:00 PM
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34. I just saw this post
thanks! I read the book in high school, one of those required reading books. and that was far too long ago for me to recall all the details...

good time for a re-read...
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 08:59 PM
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36. omg
just two pages in...and i feel like i am going to throw up.

so many things are just exactly like our world now, so many things i can forsee if the corporate agenda continues to take more and more power.

:scared:
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 10:22 PM
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38. *shudder*
"The Party said that Oceania had never been in alliance with Eurasia. He, Winston Smith, knew that Oceania had been in alliance with Eurasia as short a time as four years ago. But where did that knowledge exist? Only in his own consciousness, which in any case must soon be annihilated. And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed -if all records told the same tale -- then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past,' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'
And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. 'Reality control', they called it: in Newspeak, 'doublethink'. "


this makes me think of the textbooks being rewritten, and the way vietnam and even the gulf war are still being spun...
:hide:
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 08:30 PM
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35. Picked a paperback copy up last year on Ebay for 5 dollars.
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 09:02 PM
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37. Imagine it'll be shut down as soon as they pass the Internet Gag Law.
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