Marry a Muslim or die' threat to Harry Potter actress revealed as brother is jailed for beating her

[WillParkinson]

Marry a Muslim or die' threat to Harry Potter actress revealed as brother is jailed for beating her up

The full horror of a three-hour attack on one of the stars of the Harry Potter films was revealed in court for the first time as her brother was jailed for beating her up.

Ashraf Azad has been locked up for six months after setting upon his sister Afshan having discovered she was involved in a relationship with a non-Muslim man.

Manchester Crown Court heard he left his younger sister bruised and swollen after grabbing her by the hair, throwing her across a room and punching her in the head and back as she cowered on the floor of the family home.

Actress Afshan, 22, played Padma Patil, a classmate of the young wizard at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1349326/Harry-Potter-actresss-brother-jailed-nasty-attack-star-dating-non-Muslim.html#ixzz1BihCw8Am

[derby378]

1. Uh-uh, NONE of that shit anymore

I hope that bigot has a little more time alone in his cell to reflect on his sins.

[icnorth]

8. Unless he was able to have

Second Amendment Bachmann as his roomie for a couple of months...

[derby378]

28. We've finally found a use for Batshit Bachmann!

Saaaaalute! :patriot:

[TheMadMonk]

41. Stuff alone. Most prisons have a lifer with a special talent for...

...delivering a scientific beating. The sort of beating which marries a maximum of pain, with a minimum of injury.

It is amazing how often these individuals somehow end up in an exercise yard with a prisoner who manages to upset both the screws and the lags. eg. child abusers.

[derby378]

61. "Scientific beating" is a term that makes me wince a bit

I think the falaka is scientific enough for me, thank you very much. :scared:

[Lucian]

2. Religion is good how?

The world will be better off without religion.

[uppityperson]

30. Fundamentalism is good how?

The world would be better off without fundamentalists trying to force their will on others.

[Lucian]

34. It'd be better without religion.

Religion is irrational. Irrationality is the reason why our country is going down the shithole. If religion were gone, maybe it'd make people think more rationally.

[uppityperson]

43. Having personal privately held beliefs is...evil? Interesting definition of irrationality. eom

[Lucian]

46. Look what their beliefs do.

It's around you. Hatred of homosexuals, acts like what just happened to this "Harry Potter" actress, female circumcision, suicide bombers, the West Bank, The Crusades, Israel, Hezbollah, Sunnis, Shiites, Kurds, Islam, Priests and little boys...the list goes on. Do I really need to spell it out for you?

[uppityperson]

47. Sounds like Fundamentalism is the problem. Not individual countries or everyone of a certain religio

Yes. Spell out how anyone who has any belief is part of that nastiness. Please. Tell me how I am. Tell me how I, and any other DUers who may hold any sort of belief are irrational and part of that nastiness. Please.

[Lucian]

49. I don't want to waste anymore of my time with you.

Watch the show House and pay attention to Dr. House's views on religion. I share those same exact views.

[uppityperson]

50. You can not answer. OK. Bye. Thanks for insulting me and all who hold any sort of belief

Fundamentalism is harsh on many.

[Richard Steele]

51. HOUSE? Welcome to "ignore". nm

[Lucian]

52. I'll sure miss your snark towards me.

:)

[antigone382]

63. Female circumcision is not religious in origin. It is a cultural practice.

It is practiced throughout the region, in both Muslim and non-Muslim areas. The one Muslim text that mentions female circumcision says that if it is going to be done, a more mild form that retains the capacity for sexual pleasure should be performed.

If you study anthropology, you will see that the values that spring up in religious beliefs generally reflect the society itself, rather than vice versa.

[antigone382]

62. Have you looked at your avatar recently???

I have been an atheist for several years now...but the belief that religion is responsible for human irrationality is a pretty irrational belief in itself. Religion is like any other human institution; it can be used for great good, or great evil. In the absence of religion, people will find other reasons to hate and dehumanize one another, whether it be race, nationality, political belief, or any other difference that can be exploited by the powerful to incite the ignorant.

The bottom line is that religion a part of this world and a part of many peoples' worldview, and nothing you ever do is going to remove it. Adopting the stance that religion is fundamentally evil, and everyone who has a religious faith must be fundamentally irrational and unworthy of respect is both useless, destructive, and profoundly ignorant of human nature.

[TheManInTheMac]

64. +1,000,000

I'm so sick of phony atheists who are really just anti-religion. They get under my skin as much as any other proselytizer, maybe more.

[MicaelS]

65. You have the temerity to say this?

While you have a man who was a committed Christian and an ordained Minister as your avatar? Talk about disconnects.

[demosincebirth]

38. Ditto.

[DCKit]

56. Fundamentalism is hardly an excuse in this case. He was also drunk.

Not quite sure how that fits with ANY fundy beliefs, be they Xtian, Muslim, or whatever.

He's a hypocritical, misogynistic freak who claims to be religious.

[uppityperson]

57. It's that old pick and chose parts of whatever religion you want.

Another part of many types of Fundamentalists is the picking and chosing of which parts you want to impose on others. Many are hypocritical misogynist freaks who claim to be religious.

[DCKit]

58. That's a given.

My point is the drinking. Isn't that a stoning offense for "religious" Muslims?

He's probably quite the player, too.

[uppityperson]

59. I am in agreement with you. It is very hypocritical. eom

[Violet_Crumble]

3. The Daily Mail isn't a reliable source...

It's a bigoted and incredibly unreliable source...

[riderinthestorm]

5. I thought the same but unfortunately, this appears to be a legit story.

I googled it and it's all over every reputable source as well from cbs news, to Huffington Post and more.

What a shame.

[Violet_Crumble]

12. Thanks. It's a real shame some DUers use the Daily Mail as a source n/t

[WillParkinson]

15. Well gee, how about a list of accepted papers?

That'd make it a lot easier on everyone. I'm sorry you don't like the newspaper or the article. As has been shown it was a legitimate news story regardless of the source.

[Violet_Crumble]

19. What bit of the newspaper being a hatemongering source is difficult to get?

This isn't difficult to comprehend. No-one's telling you to work from an accepted list of sources. What's been pointed out is that you posted a link to a source that's a site that engages in hatred and bigotry. If you want to keep on posting from it, go for yr life...

[WillParkinson]

6. How's this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/01/afshan-azads-family-tries_n_632978.html

[Violet_Crumble]

11. If you had another source, why post the Daily Mail at all? n/t

[WillParkinson]

13. I searched for another source after your comment...

I saw the article and posted it. Did not know anything about the paper, just the article.

[Violet_Crumble]

16. No worries. There was a discussion of the Daily Mail in the UK forum not long ago...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=191x32644

It's a nasty one and many American DUers aren't aware of just how nasty it is. I reckon it's always worth pointing it out coz most people like yrself will post from an alternative and reliable source next time :)

[Warren DeMontague]

20. You wouldn't have any opinion on the actual story, would you?

Since we've sorted out the bit about the Daily Mail.

[Violet_Crumble]

23. I do. Do you? n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

25. Yeah. I think it's seriously fucked up.

I think someone needs to go to prison.

[Violet_Crumble]

26. We're on the same page there...

The father should be sent to prison as well as he also threatened to kill her. Nasty business...

[Mojeoux]

45. Thanks Will

The HP article had a FB link and the other one didn't. Don't let the Judgey Mc Judgersons get you down about your news source.

This topic comes at people sideways anyway.

This abuse is why one of the best friend's of my life, ran away away away away away from her family in 1970.

Religion is no excuse, it just makes good Muslims look bad. It is sexism and racism and we in free societies cannot abide these family secrets anymore.

[Warren DeMontague]

18. Edit. Delete.

Not aware of the whole Daily Mail brou-ha-ha.

[Violet_Crumble]

22. Deleted by me n/t

[cali]

10. in this case, it looks like they're not unreliable

Brother jailed for attack on 'Harry Potter' star

(AFP) – 56 minutes ago

LONDON — The brother of a "Harry Potter" film actress was jailed for six months Friday for assaulting her because her boyfriend was not Muslim.

Afshan Azad, 21, who played Potter's classmate Padma Patil in the smash hit films, was subjected to a "prolonged and nasty" beating over her Hindu boyfriend, Manchester Crown Court in northwest England heard.

Her brother Ashraf, 28, overheard her talking on the phone to her boyfriend and subjected to her a lengthy ordeal before her family in which she feared for her life.

During the row at the family home in Manchester on May 21 last year, she was branded a "slag" and a "prostitute" and told: "Marry a Muslim or you die!"

The actress called for leniency and begged the judge not to jail her brother.

However, Roger Thomas sent Ashraf Azad to prison for six months after he pleaded guilty to assault occasioning actual bodily harm.
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gO5eGL91XG_dE77_TKslAOwSrLxg?docId=CNG.8c7c2d37b80a7efbfd66908fa452bb99.ba1

12:45PM GMT 21 Jan 2011

Afshan Azad, 21, who played Padma Patil, a classmate of the teenage wizard, in the blockbuster Hollywood films based on JK Rowling's children's books, feared for her life during the three-hour ordeal, Manchester Crown Court heard.

She was punched, dragged around by her hair and strangled by her brother Ashraf Azad, 28, who threatened to kill her after he caught her talking on the phone to her Hindu boyfriend on May 21 last year, the court was told.

During the row at the family home in Longsight, Manchester, which also involved her mother and father, she was branded a ''slag'' and a ''prostitute'' and told: ''Marry a Muslim or you die!''

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/8273984/Brother-of-Harry-Potter-star-jailed-for-attacking-her.html

[Violet_Crumble]

14. Of course the Daily Mail is an unreliable source...

People don't get to pick what they like and don't like out of it. It's an unreliable source all the time with no exceptions. And that's what I was pointing out, not that there might actually be some basis to the actual story itself...

[cali]

17. the story they printed was factual

ergo, it is not unreliable in this instance, though I wouldn't argue with you that it is an unreliable source.

[Violet_Crumble]

24. Fair enough. I read the HuffPo one posted in this thread, btw...

I didn't even bother clicking on the link to the Daily Mail...

[druidity33]

32. wait a minute...

you consider HuffPo a reliable source?

:shrug:

[Violet_Crumble]

40. Of course I do. Shouldn't I?

If it's a hatemongering rag fuelled by racism and bigotry, I'll stand corrected, but I haven't noticed that when I read it...

[druidity33]

54. maybe not as hateful...

but just as biased.

:shrug:

[GoneOffShore]

53. The Daily Mail may be an "unreliable source"

The Telegraph, despite its distinctly Tory leanings is a paper that will invariably provide close to unbiased news coverage.

Their editorial page, on the other hand.......

[StarsInHerHair]

29. lovely peaceful religious advertizement there......

nt

[BOG PERSON]

21. the daily mail!

cor blimey moppet! wot-wot! bloody 'ell innit!

[WilliamPitt]

4. All fundamentalism is fundamentally anti-woman

as well as wrong.

ALL fundamentalism...including free-market fundamentalism.

[riderinthestorm]

7. +1000. could not have said it better. nt

[HillbillyBob]

9. Putting the mental into fundymentalism....

nt

[Odin2005]

27. Religion = Evil.

[uppityperson]

31. Fundamentalists trying to force their will on others=Evil.

[BOG PERSON]

36. n/m

[BOG PERSON]

35. if you think there are good and evil things in this world

maybe you should give religion another shot

[Odin2005]

44. Atheist stereotype FAIL.

[Le Taz Hot]

55. Why in the world would you equate good/evil with

religion? Just because all religions claim the concepts as their own doesn't make it so. That's like saying in order for a person to be ethical and honest they have to be religious. No connection there.

[WillyT]

33. It's A Cultural Thing, Don'tcha Know...

:mad:

:puke:

:kick:

[saras]

37. What's unusual about the Daily Mail

Sure it's unreliable, a hatemonger, and is regularly shown up as a liar.

So is every other mass media outfit I've encountered in my whole life. Are we to not quote any of them on DU ever?

God knows the New York Times hasn't done much better. Fact-check their reporting of Al Gore, for example.

[Violet_Crumble]

39. Yr comparing the Daily Mail to the New York Times??

The Daily Mail is incredibly racist. Have you ever looked at it before? Getting something wrong about Al Gore is not racist or hatemongering, btw...

Here's a link to a thread about the Daily Mail that was in the UK forum recently. Many Americans are totally unaware of what sort of source it is, which is why when it's posted at DU people need to be told. Many of them would avoid posting from it once they're aware of what it is...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=191x32644

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

42. Enforce the fucking LAW. Easy.

And while we're at it, do likewise for pedophile clerics.

[genna]

48. How awful

[Cleita]

60. Everyone is blaming this on religion when it's really the

culture. Most of those "muslims" really don't practice that much. The fact the brother was drinking is testimony to that. It's really a cultural thing about family honor and more likely the family wanting to make a marriage that is beneficial to them. What the girl wants is unimportant to them. I had an Egyptian friend back when I was in college, who was Christian. It was the same dynamic and they married her off to a rich Lebanese son of one of her father's business associates even though she had fallen in love with an American. She was never beaten, but her brothers closed in on her when they heard of the romance with the American and they never left her alone until the day she was married to a man she hardly knew and didn't love.