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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:06 PM
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Rich people having trouble selling their yachts
You Think Houses Are a Slow Sell? Try a Yacht
By GERALDINE FABRIKANT
Published: January 21, 2011

In boom times, yacht enthusiasts would order a new dream boat and keep their old one for the two or three years the builder needed to complete the new boat. Then, they would quickly sell the older yacht to impatient new millionaires and billionaires eager for their requisite status symbols.

But that equation changed with the financial crisis two years ago and took the superyacht market down with it.

Some of the wealthy have ended up like Peter A. Hochfelder, the principal and founder of Brahman Capital Management, a private investment firm in Manhattan. Mr. Hochfelder already owned a 134-foot Lürssen, named Blind Date, that was built in 1995. He commissioned a second boat in 2007, a 161-foot Trinity yacht, that he christened with the same name. It was completed in 2009.

Now, Mr. Hochfelder, who declined to be interviewed, has put both on the market, in the hope that he can sell at least one. He has been asking $9.5 million for the older yacht and $33 million for the new one, which is big enough to sleep 12 guests.

Maintaining a big yacht, after all, is expensive. Yacht specialists estimate that Mr. Hochfelder pays about $4 million a year to run his two boats.
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“It was a fool’s paradise,” said Malcolm Maclean, editor at BoatInternational.com, a Web site that tracks the yacht industry. Now, he said of the owners who cannot get rid of their boats, “They have caught very bad colds.” By one estimate, 300 new boats were sold annually worldwide from the mid-1990s until the 2008 collapse, when sales dropped to about 100 boats.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/22/business/22yachts.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&ref=business&src=me&adxnnlx=1295665420-gxuKYIwE8Fy/8x0sf7D4mg
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:08 PM
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1. Perhaps they will drown with them?!?
Edited on Fri Jan-21-11 10:19 PM by Dawson Leery
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:08 PM
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2. Not enough other rich people, you greedy, unpatriotic bastards!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:11 PM
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3. Sucks to be them
NOT!
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:12 PM
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4. I should be able to get a pretty good deal then
I need to call my boat broker right away
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:13 PM
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5. They can give me one, then I can live there instead of in my car.
Too sensible, right?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:14 PM
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6. way too sensible
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:17 PM
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13. but, but...but... they would get a huge tax break for it!
Oh, that's right... they already aren't paying taxes.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:19 PM
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16. Pshaw...people like you have it easy.
No hassles, no daily work stress...what do homeless people have to feel bad about? You have a car to sleep in? Be happy!

This post brought to you by the RNC.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:22 PM
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18. I've missed seeing you. You always remind me of what is important.
Car repair bill on the way.

:rofl:

:hi:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:26 PM
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19. As do you.
:loveya:
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:15 PM
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7. They have no trouble selling their souls to further their mindless pursuit of material possessions
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:15 PM
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8. My God, will the madness ever end?!
What is the government doing about this? This is a travesty! An outrage! And the lamestream media observe a conspiracy of silence, the suffering yacht owners remain in oblivion, outside the public eye, their plight unnamed, unnoticed. Oh who, who I ask, will step forward in a latter day profile in courage, to rescue them from this horrible, nay devastating situation?

It is to weep. :cry:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:16 PM
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12. lol n/t
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:19 PM
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15. Vexing, ain't it?
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:15 PM
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9. I hope they don't commit suicide on them....!
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:16 PM
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10. Insure them, dock them along the gulf and wait for a hurricane
problem solved
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:28 PM
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20. I wonder if some will catch fire.
Poor souls.

One guy said it cost $4 million to upkeep his boats.

Makes me cry.

:sarcasm: :nopity:
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:16 PM
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11. Happiest Days for a boat owner ?
The day they buy the boat, and the day they sell the boat ...

I guess the rich can only be halfway happy now .... I am literally in tears ...

Let's take up a collection for them !
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:17 PM
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14. That has to suck.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:20 PM
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17. yup.
:party: :toast: :bounce: :party:
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:35 PM
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21. They will just burn or sink them and claim insurance.
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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:39 PM
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22. They're too big to sail; the government will bail them out. Oh wait -
was it fail or sail?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:40 PM
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23. This is absolutely tragic
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 11:16 PM
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24. Po itty bitty wee wich peepha
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 11:24 PM
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25. I wonder if incidences of fire will increase
I will keep an eye out.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 11:33 PM
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26. Fuck them. nt
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 11:52 PM
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27. At some point they'll make these yachts with armor and armaments...
... and then these bastards will be able to sell them to places like Iran, who'd like to have them to fight against us with. And if they keep them, they'll at least be able to fend off the hordes when the newer rendition of the French Revolution starts here in this country after they've sacked it that much more!
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