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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 12:49 AM
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Keith for HBO!
I won't be watching MSNBC anymore but I would really love to see Keith free of the pressures of the corporate media.

HBO would be a great place for him.

Bill Maher has done much better since he got his own show on HBO after being silenced by the Corporate Media also.

George Carlin found a home on HBO also.

Rachel should think about moving before they start restricting what she can say also.

She should remember what they did to their rising star journalist, Ashley Banfield.

The Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann Show!

I think that would be a hit that would attract millions of viewers.

Keith helped build MSNBC.

I think he would do even better on HBO.



The corporate media sinks even further into irrelevancy.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 12:51 AM
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1. I am not sure HBO is not corporate
It is owned by Time Warner, they are not independent, nobody is.

http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/granville.shtml

Though for the DEMO they go after he'd be a good fit.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 12:56 AM
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4. They have a different audience than the 24 hour news cable
audience.

And they have given a platform to many people who were fired or created controversy on other networks, like George Carlin and Maher who is far better now than he ever was on his original show.

But yes, all the networks are run by corporations, but HBO seems to be the last refuge for smart people to speak freely other than indie tv which has not gained a big enough audience yet.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 12:57 AM
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5. Why I said what I said about the demo
that is the demographic.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 02:33 AM
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16. I thought you meant age groups which these networks
tend to aim for.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 12:55 AM
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2. Could he do a daily show on HBO?
Maher only does once a week.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 01:22 AM
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8. I don't know, probably not.
I don't think HBO does any daily shows, do they?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 12:56 AM
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3. Who owns HBO? I thought Al Gore was going to do something for
Democrats when he got into tv.

I wish there was one or two Democrat stations.

Can you imagine this country = seven network and cable stations and all of the corporately owned and pushing the Reoublican propaganda and vitriol all day, all week, all years - except for a token 15 or 20 hours a week for some Democratic coverage.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 01:04 AM
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6. Someone above just said that Time Warner owns HBO.
We will never get anywhere so long as we do not have a free press. And every time we get a progressive who is successful, they get rid of him/her.

HBO does seem to pick up a lot of the people who have run-ins with the MSM, like George Carlin and Maher eg. And they seem to be much freer to express themselves there.

If the current trend towards the right in the media were reversed, this would be an entirely different country.
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fourtwenty Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 01:22 AM
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9. MSNBC sellout
imagine it?? I am living in it
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npk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 01:22 AM
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10. HBO is owned by AOL/Time Warner
Basically the same company that bought out Turner Broadcasting. They own all the Turner networks, TBS, TNT, CNN, TRUtv, TCM, and Cartoon Network. It's basically a mixed bag, politically. I have been told by many people that Time Warner is more hands off in how their networks run.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 01:34 AM
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14. Seems like they are not into being another imitation of Fox
like the rest of the media. I do like the freedom of speech on HBO most of the time. A mixed bag is a good thing, thanks for the information.
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StreetKnowledge Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 02:35 AM
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17. You mean like it is now?
America's media are morons, neutered by the suits in order to keep America wailing off to the right, contemplating its own economic and social destruction.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 04:30 AM
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18. The U.S. media is moronic. When you watch European
news eg, and then you go back to the news here, you feel like crying. It's as if it was directed at children.

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 01:12 AM
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7.  Comcast /NBC marriage already reducing our access to what we can watch-that was quick...
I suppose they will re-brand MSNBC into a newer and better fox....
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 01:24 AM
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11. I don't think they'll do a rebrand. the liberal version of FOX
has & is working very well for them and their ratings have soared sinbce Keith Rachel Ed & Lawrence. Remember, they are really only i it for the money, and ratings do that. my guess is that they're execs are no fans of Rupert's either. I read & heard comments that Keith has been indicating signs of looking for his next job for some time and may well have several irons in the fire. Keith is NOT gone from the airwaves and I happen to like MSNBC's new lineup. Let's wait and see what happens. Just maybe we liberals will get more exposure with this change.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 01:30 AM
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12. They did it before and it didn't work out too well for them.
After they fired Donohue and hired Scarborough to cheer for the war airc, their ratings were terrible.

So far it looks like they're trying to keep the liberal audience.

But the lost one viewer, not that that will affect anything.

But I am now going to be wondering how much the others are not saying for fear of meeting the same fate as Keith.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 01:34 AM
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13. He has a 2 year non-compete clause in his contract.
n/t
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 01:40 AM
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15. I imagine everything depends on how he came to leave so abruptly
If they fired him for no good reason, then I think he could get out of such a clause, eg.

If he quit for some very good reason, he also might be able to get out of it.

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 03:30 PM
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19. Just read that he signed an agreement that ended his contract
and the agreement included not doing any major TV shows for a certain amount of time. So, I guess that rules out HBO, unless they don't view HBO as 'competitors'.
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