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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:55 AM
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Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’
FROM RAW STORY:

One might think the two men, seemingly ideologically opposed to one another, would rather argue than help one another.

However, on Wednesday's broadcast of Freedom Watch on the Fox Business channel, Judge Napolitano sat down for an amiable interview with Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) and Ralph Nader to discuss a progressive-libertarian alliance in the 112th session of respective chambers in Congress.

Nader, who has recently called this coalition "the most exciting new political dynamic" in the US today, explained that it works well because both groups stand against corporatists who believe government should be run in the interests of corporations.

Paul added that he agreed with Nader on a host of issues, such as cutting the US military's budget, ending undeclared US wars overseas, restoring civil liberties and civil rights by dumping from the Patriot Act, and withdrawing from the NAFTA and World Trade Organization agreements. (EMPHASIS ADDED BY BIGBEARJOHN)

SOURCE: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/ron-paul-ralph-nader-agree-on-progressive-libertarian-alliance/




Shoot me for saing it my fellow DU'ers,:hide: but this is something I will support 100%. It just might work.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:00 AM
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1. heh. i can hear the veins popping and see the spittle flying already...
:P
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:37 AM
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13. Me too
Wait a minute...that's MY veins popping and MY spittle flying!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:02 AM
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2. I saw this yesterday and I said to myself-presumptuous of Nader
and I went away without posting...

Now it's up again and I just had to say it. Nader is marginally a politician indeed he's self-appointed, and his effectiveness as such rivals sister Sarah.



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kywildcat Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:21 AM
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6. amen
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:44 AM
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15. "Times are Hard" can't ya donate for a "Brotha"
Ralph just needs his 4 year financial shot in the arm
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:45 AM
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20. and an ego shot.
STFU Ralfph.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 01:00 PM
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27. Ralph has proved multiple times - He is only in it for the MONEY
sad but true
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:06 AM
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3. it worries me to see that I agree with them on that 'host of issues'
"Paul added that he agreed with Nader on a host of issues, such as cutting the US military's budget, ending undeclared US wars overseas, restoring civil liberties and civil rights by dumping from the Patriot Act, and withdrawing from the NAFTA and World Trade Organization agreements."

then again - it should NOT worry me at all - we SHOULD be seeking common ground, and trying to come to agreements on solutions. And so should our politicians.

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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:28 AM
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8. +1 (nt)
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CanSocDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:49 AM
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16. If you DIDN'T agree...


...with those issues, we'd all wonder what you're doing here.

.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:40 AM
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24. When the Working Class & The Poor....
...realize we have more in common with each other than we have in common with the "elite" leadership of BOTH political parties, we can demand REAL change.


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone


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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:12 AM
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4. Sounds like a good idea. Since we get sold out constantly by our own party!
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:32 AM
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11. Interesting that you would want Ron Paul speaking for you.
And Nader, the thorn in the side of Democrats. What a duo, not for me thanks.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:16 AM
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5. Corporatism had several major proponents including Mussolini, Hitler, FDR, and wealthy patrons of
the White House Putsch.

Remember Mussolini was so admired by some that he was made an honorary member of the American Legion.

In one form corporatism consisted of committees representing the business sector, labor sector, and military sector.

IMO, today we have two parties representing the business sector and government employee sector, part of the labor force, and a powerful military influence.

The Republican Party with strong business influence represents perhaps 30% or so of voters.

The Democratic Party with strong public employee influence represents perhaps 30% or so of voters.

What is missing is a party to represent the 40% or so independent voters.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:25 AM
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7. Two broken clocks in sync
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:31 AM
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9. Because things didn't work out
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:32 AM
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10. chomsky isn't far off from this when he says the the tea baggers....
....have some legitimate aspects of opposition to the government.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:39 AM
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14. Yes, but it's absurd to even say it.
There is no political philosophy, no matter how abhorrent, that doesn't include something that one might deem worthwhile. David Duke might've had sound political philosophy with regard to tariffs, but still, to blazes with him. ;)
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:07 AM
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18. it's absurd to recognize common interests? nt
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:59 AM
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21. At the cost of promoting untenable philosophies, absolutely.
A slender thread of similarity is not the same as common ground sufficient to stand on, much less build government.

Teabaggers are racist, homophobic xenophobes. I could care less what the remainder of their political beliefs hold.
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:35 AM
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12. A Paul / Nader Indy ticket would WIN the White House!
For Obama. Who is going to win anyway.

Or would it be Nader / Paul? The one the thing they won't agree on ever I'm sure.

But I do agree with what they are saying. As a nation we need a real anti-corporate alternative voice in political discourse. Go to it boys, and don't forget to talk about the war on drugs too.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:02 AM
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17. K&R- The Democratic Party seems to have joined the GOP as corporate
lovers, and they are running the country for the rich rather than the people. I am not fond of Nader or of Ron Paul, but getting rid of the Patriot Act, and ending our constant wars is worth giving them a try, IMO.
I thought that is what I was doing when I voted for Mr. Obama.
If they can accomplish what they say and give us a real working health care system, they will get my support.


mark
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:09 AM
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19. How's their alliance on social issues?
I suspect not too good.
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:26 AM
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22. I posted this yesterday and the Mods hid it
strange times..........
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:36 AM
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23. Ralph Nader is an idiot if he trusts libertarians.
Let me put this in a way that the average layman will understand. Nader Progressives and Libertarians are essentially environmentalist siding with developers.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:41 AM
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25. Here
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:31 PM
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26. ..
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