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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:13 PM
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The other 9 year old girl shot and killed in Tucson.


There's another infamous shooting of a nine-year-old girl that is making headlines this week in Tucson. This time, we wonder if the rest of the media will bother to cover it.

The little girl's name was Brisenia Flores. She lived near the border with her parents and sister outside the town of Arivaca, Arizona. On May 30 of 2009, a woman named Shawna Forde, who led an offshoot unit of Minutemen who ran armed border patrols for patriotic "fun". Forde's gang had decided to go "operational," which meant they concocted a scheme to raid drug smugglers and take their money and drugs and use it to finance a border race war and "start a revolution against the government". They targeted the Flores home, which had neither money nor drugs, based on dubious information. They convinced Flores to let them in by claiming to be law-enforcement officers seeking fugitives, then shot him point-blank in the head when he questioned them and wounded his wife, Gina Gonzalez. And then, while she pleaded for her life, they shot Brisenia in cold blood in the head. (Her sister, fortunately, was sleeping over at a friend's.)


http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/shawna-forde-trial-will-mainstream-m

Of course, this has nothing to do with the Tea Party Terrorists or their political wing the GOP, or even their Minutemen friends. Nor does it have anything to do with the language used by them.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:18 PM
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1. I remember this
It was fairly big news at the time.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:21 PM
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2. OMG - I never heard about these Minuteman murders. More Right-wing domestic terrorism.
Nothing to see folks. Move along.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:26 PM
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3. This is too sad
:cry:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:31 PM
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4. K&R
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:36 PM
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5. K&R. (nt)
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:40 PM
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6. Kick for Brisenia. nt
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Karia Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 01:06 PM
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7. Kick
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 01:09 PM
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8. remembering brisenia. nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 02:21 PM
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9. k/r
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 05:52 PM
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10. I Remember That... Thank You !!!
:mad::nuke::mad:

:kick: & Rec !!!
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:21 PM
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11. WTF?????????? nt
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:26 PM
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12. These are the Stochastic Terrorists that Beck, Palin, et al, set off
and inspire with their openly violent rhetoric.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 10:36 AM
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44. Exactly. This is the world we'd live in if just few more people believed rightwingers.
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:32 PM
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13. Whereas it "could" be argued these murderers were fringe of the fringe, what CANT be exused.
....

http://www.justiceforshawnaforde.com/

"Shawna has now been TORTURED in Coercive Solitary Confinement for 555 Days! She has spent 4 months of it "Stripped Out!" From June 10 through October, she's been shackled and chained, hand and foot, every time she leaves her cell! Why? Because she's a Minuteman!"


Seriously, when will the FREE JARED website pop up?

Sick sick sick.




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ChadwickHenryWard Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:47 PM
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27. Hold on.
This is the same treatment Bradley Manning is receiving. When it happens to a murderous, insurrectionist white supremacist, it's unacceptable, but when it happens to an active duty prisoner of conscience, it's too good for him. This is the same treatment Guantanamo Bay prisoners receive. These are the same people who are outraged when we say that's torture, but as soon as it's done to a white person, it really is torture.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 02:00 AM
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33. Did you read that 8-page, handwritten letter she wrote to her half-brother &
biological mother? She's very coarse & harsh throughout the letter (very upset because her mother spoke publicly about her), then at the end of the letter, she invites them ("let's make this a team effort") to write to her.

Her handwriting is not only atrocious, but it slants both to the left & right -- in total disorderly fashion. Her thought process is nothing but bitterness, despite asking for more letters at the end. I'm no handwriting expert, but she seems not mentally ill, but seriously disturbed.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:34 PM
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14. Didn't you get the memo? the MSM only cares about murdered white kids.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:23 PM
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17. This girl would've been covered if she had been shot in the Giffords shooting
this is two different things.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:58 PM
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21. What I find telling, is that this girl's name wasn't up there with the other's...
...by the time the six o'clock news came aroung.

You are possibly right in that not re-reporting this earlier incident has little to do with the nation's inherrent racism. (This time.)

It is after all very hard to spin the "lone nutcase" meme, when the lone nutcases start coming in job lots.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:10 PM
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15. kick
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:17 PM
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16. Good God. I had not heard about this. I almost wish I still hadn't
Rec'd.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:32 AM
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34. I agree with you. Utterly heartbreaking.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:28 PM
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18. I suppose the shooters were all just "mentally ill" and not terrorists, right?
:crazy:
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:32 PM
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19. Jared Loughner had schizophrenia. Shawna Forde does not.
Shawna Forde's is a fucking psychopath who killed a little girl in cold blood.

If anyone should be supermaxed until they lose their fucking mind, it's Shawna Forde...
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kurtzapril4 Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:44 PM
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25. Being a psycopath is still a mental illness n/t
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:00 PM
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29. No, it's not. It's a personality disorder.
You can treat mental illnesses. There is no known treatment for personality disorders, least of all psychopathy.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 01:25 AM
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31. Yes,
and isn't it a damned shame?

BTW, I believe that the vast majority of Corporate Megalomaniacs are sociopaths (or, at the very least, O-D).
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 08:36 AM
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39. I don't believe sociopaths are actually human beings.
Humans have a conscience and empathy, which Shawna Forde clearly lacks. She's not human. Might as well be a lizard person. We're justified in treating this sociopath like a fucking animal.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 09:11 AM
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40. To call a sociopath an animal is insulting the animals
Edited on Mon Jan-24-11 09:12 AM by meow2u3
Sociopaths like Shawna Forde are demons incarnate. They're only technically human inasmuch as they posssess a human body; it's the contents of their soul that are the problem.

I wouldn't call those soulless, conscienceless, inhumans from hell animals. I love animals too much to compare that scum like her with a sentient being incapable of destruction for the sheer hell of it (except if the animal is used as a weapon, in which case I blame the demon{s} in human form).
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:39 PM
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20. This happened in 2009? I doubt the media will cover it today, even with...
...heightened consciousness about violence in AZ. News organizations know that their audiences have very short attention spans. Something that happened more than a year ago is unlikely to get more coverage now than it did then.

It SHOULD have been a major national media focus then, of course.

regretfully,
Bright
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:00 PM
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22. Were they captured and convicted?
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:01 PM
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23. Yes and the Republicans have
a site up defending them as "political prisoners".
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:03 PM
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24. I remember this too.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:53 PM
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26. An article at the Southern Poverty Law Center from Fall of 2009
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:17 PM
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47. Thank you. (nt)
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:53 PM
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28. How horrible!!!
I hadn't heard about this child and her family. What kind of sick bastards shoot a little girl in cold blood? Loughner is mentally ill. What is these creeps' excuse? May they rot in hell!!!!

Rest in peace, Brisenia and Mr. Flores.

:(
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 12:30 AM
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30. Gangsters. That's what they are.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 01:25 AM
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32. OMG. This is horrible! Why have renegades like the self-proclaimed "minutemen"
been able to operate in the first place, I've always wondered. This story tells me the lawless are victimizing whomever they can get away with doing so.

Very sad; will be anticipating the verdict of these scumbags.
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:59 AM
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35. just horrible. Bastards
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whathappened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:28 AM
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36. and how many
don't we hear about , buried in shallow graves in the desert , these minutemen and women are running wild because of the becks and obillyboy and rushnuts running there mouths , giving these people the green lite to shoot and murder in the name of good verses evil at the borders
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 10:14 AM
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43. Exactly. Shit.
Is anyone else recalling Mississippi in the 60's?

I certainly am. K&R :cry:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:58 AM
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37. Domestic Terrorists...
Life in prison, no possibility of parole if/when convicted.

These people are not only murderers, they are also thieves. They based their "operation" on theft, which turned to murder. Pathetic monsters walk among us, they are neither patriots nor heroes, they are pieces of excrement that deserve to spend long lives behind bars, never seeing daylight again.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 08:31 AM
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38. i forgot about that...another right wing terrorist group.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 09:13 AM
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41. Terrorism short and sweet. This type is apparently tolerable by AZ freaks as is demonstrated by
silence.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 10:10 AM
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42. WHAT THE F***!?!!
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DRex Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 11:26 AM
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45. Amazing how this story has been flying under the radar....
it's simply shocking. So sad.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 11:57 AM
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46. K&R
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