Is Capitalism done with America?

[SHRED]

It has drained her and now is "rewarding" buyers and workers overseas.
Hell, with the emerging middle-class in India and China it doesn't even need the USA as a consumer pretty soon.

Capitalism goes wherever the profit margins are the greatest.
The system that America has worshiped and pushed on the world is now turning on her.

What's next?

[rucky]

1. Almost but not yet.

Not until they drain us of every penny.

[TBF]

2. What's next? Socialism. nt

[Taverner]

3. Dear Dog, I hope so

[SammyWinstonJack]

16. Me too!

[True_Blue]

22. X2!

[maryf]

4. Don't think it's done yet...

It still needs American servants and cannon fodder...K&R

[patrice]

7. Right on! = Cannon fodder. nt

[BOG PERSON]

8. i don't know

it seems to me that, if anything, american-style warfare has become less human, more robotic. what do we need cannon-fodder for? we've got predator drones and shit.

[maryf]

10. cannon fodder's not done yet either...

your point about drones is a good one...the ptsd of the troops who send these drones is sky high, another form of cannon fodder...

I guess we'll only be pushing the buttons of the cannons soon; yet I think they will still want our young to be out there personally killing, destroying any sense of wrongful death...the fodder will be citizens from other countries under capitalists' thumbs.

Creating "terrorists"...folks just defending themselves and their lifestyles in far too many instances...

[patrice]

12. Right! + Cannon fodder is evolving into computer operators, but boots on the ground will

probably never actually go completely away.

You're right to not underestimate the profound importance of robot-war, from-a-distance, especially with our handy-dandy, all purpose, cheaper-by-the-dozen, little nukes. Extremely de-stabilizing, self-fulfilling/re-inforcing e$$$$$$$$$$calation$$$$$$$$$$$$, until it's ALL over.

God! I HATE! War-profiteers! - and I'm not ashamed to say it.

[slay]

5. I wish Americans would hurry up and be done with C(r)apitalism already

it doesn't work and it's destroying the country. I'll back Bernie Sanders and his form of Socialism/Socialist Democracy any time!

[SHRED]

9. x1000!

[Scruffy1]

18. I like it without the ( )-LOL

This is a great idea in how to change the dialogue. If its OK with you I'm gonna plagiarize it.

Crapitalism forever.

[slay]

19. +1

capitalism = c(r)apitalism = crapitalism. same crappy thing to me. go for it. :evilgrin:

[patrice]

6. Doesn't China NEED us, at least for a while, as viable herds of grazers... uh, consumers?

[Capitalocracy]

15. Yes, but who says China's calling the shots?

Plus, they've still got Europe, for a little while.

[purrFect]

11. not until they get all our 'entitlements' (e.g. SS & Medicare)

then, they will be completely done.

[Starry Messenger]

13. Draining us is part of the process of Capitalism.

So, no. It needs us impoverished here. That's the way it worked when we were "on top" too. Our robust "middle class" were the beneficiaries of someone else's misfortune. That's how it is going to keep going on until we get rid of the whole fucking process.

[Capitalocracy]

14. Oh, there is so much more wealth to suck!

Until half the population is living in shantytowns, they won't be ready to move on. I know we've given until it hurts... but believe me, we have more to give!

[Scruffy1]

17. There's a little blood left to suck

"Capitalism is dead labor which vampire like sucks the life from labor. The more it sucks the more it lives."

Being a citizen of the world I am continually conflicted by the us versus them attitude of even most progressive Americans. Perhaps a better way to look at off shoring jobs is that its creating new oligarchies throughout the world and more poor people. For instance in India while the GDP has grown dramatically the wages have fallen.
It seems to me that if we can keep the whole world fighting each other over scarce jobs the small oligarchy of capitalists van easily control the world. I see it in America as we blame Mexicans who have been driven from there home for the lack of jobs in the USA.

In the natural course of events unions in the USA will be gone, public employees will be low paid, unmotivated and probably corrupt just like in any other third world country. We will have a growing underclass-transient, ill educated and ill housed. All this talk about the middle class is silly to me,as it only existed in large numbers for a brief period in American history. Now that we have turned our backs on what made an affluent middle class possible in the first place there is no turning back without major change which I don't believe will happen soon.
And it will never happen through the power of the vote alone.

It's taken forty years for the capitalists to get where they are and it will probably take that long to get our country back. We will do it. We will keep fighting ,scratching and clawing for small victories until we have removed enough bricks in their wall to topple the power of the arragant since it is their very arragance that will be their undoing.

[B Calm]

20. Well they have milked and harvested our 401K funds and

then funneled our investment funds internationally.

As far as industries are concerned, there are cheaper and more plentiful natural resources elsewhere to exploit, cheaper labor and younger developing consumer markets outside the US that present more attractive investment opportunities. Industry would prefer not to make any further investments into the US, thus capital flight is inevitable (in spite of tax policies)...

I think the public would and should be outraged, turmoil is simmering. A judgment day will come....

[bluestate10]

21. Your thesis ignores the fact that.

Countries like Australia, New Zealand, Norway, Finland are much smaller that the USA and tiny when compared to India and China, but are doing perfectly fine. The USA will do well.

[cbdo2007]

23. When did we have capitalism in America??

[maryf]

24. when did we not?

before the Europeans came...