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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 02:48 PM
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Guantánamos Here at Home: Manning and many, many others
Guantánamos Here at Home
Sally Eberhardt and Jeanne Theoharis | January 20, 2011

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The outrage over Manning's confinement is to be applauded, but sadly, his experience is not a rarity. For many facing terrorism-related charges and held in US jails within the federal system since 9/11, most of them Muslim, it has become standard procedure. And despite attempts for years by Muslim-American community leaders and activists to draw attention to these domestic cases, few commentators or news outlets have raised the issue of prolonged pretrial solitary confinement when it was being applied to Muslim defendants. Commentators question the "national security" justification for Manning's severe detention conditions and note its punitive nature, but the draconian conditions many Muslim suspects face in the United States are too often treated as understandable security measures. Indeed, most civil libertarians have restricted their public condemnations of US practices in the "war on terror" to the prisons at Guantánamo Bay and Bagram.

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Visitors to Manning can speak about their conversations and provide detailed comments directly from Manning to counter Pentagon claims about how he is being treated (as House has done). But those who visit pretrial Muslim detainees held in solitary confinement under the government's Special Administrative Measures (SAMs)—lawyers and immediate family members are customarily the only ones permitted to do so—are legally forbidden to speak about the detainee's situation, including any communication they have had. This has created a wall of silence around the abuses being committed. Indeed, in many cases lawyers and family members risk prosecution if they provide any detail from conversations or quotes from the detainee. SAMs were instituted in 1996 for cases with "a substantial risk that a prisoner's communications or contacts with persons could result in death or serious bodily injury to persons." These measures were intended primarily for gang leaders and criminals with a demonstrated reach beyond prison walls, but the standards for imposing and renewing them were significantly relaxed after 9/11, leading to their pretrial use. Today SAMs provide the legal apparatus for domestic rights violations that can stretch on for years.

What information we do have about detainees held under SAMs echoes many of the horrifying conditions faced by Manning, most notably solitary confinement under constant video surveillance, including monitoring of the toilet and shower. SAMs add a layer of isolation that exceeds even the fearsome conditions Manning is encountering. For instance, David House, who is neither Manning's lawyer nor a member of his family, has been allowed access to Manning, but under SAMs only the lawyer and immediate family (if cleared) can have contact with a detainee—no letters, visits, calls or even talking through walls. Page after page, a prisoner's SAM spells out in intricate detail the nature of his isolation, down to how many pages of paper he can use in a letter or what part of the newspaper he is allowed to have and after what sort of delay. Manning is allowed to watch television, but pretrial prisoners under SAMs are often forbidden television or radio and read newspapers often delayed at least thirty days and redacted by prison officials. Manning is allowed to write multiple letters to an approved group of family and friends, but prisoners under SAMs are typically allowed only a single letter on three pieces of paper once a week to an immediate family member. House says that Manning told him he has not been outside to exercise for four weeks. Compare this with Syed Fahad Hashmi, an American citizen who spent three years without access to fresh air at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Lower Manhattan, or Canadian citizen Mohammed Abdullah Warsame, who spent six years—nearly all of them in pretrial solitary confinement—under SAMs in Minnesota.

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Solitary confinement, in addition to threatening an inmate's mental health, threatens his ability to participate in his defense. Such treatment has great value to federal prosecutors. Medical and scholarly evidence overwhelmingly demonstrates the severe damage solitary confinement causes after just sixty days. Indeed, Senator John McCain writes that it was the worst part of his POW experience in North Vietnam—more devastating than the physical torture. "Tortured until proven guilty" is how some commentators have termed the way Manning's conditions are being used to coerce his cooperation.

More at link, please read it all...

Source URL: http://www.thenation.com/article/157896/guant%C3%A1namos-here-home
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 02:56 PM
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1. Yes. And it's torture.
A British television station did a documentary on America's brutal prisons, available on line at http://video.yahoo.com/watch/2298062/7213011


No one has called it officially sanctioned torture, but it is.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 03:02 PM
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2. Thanks!! here's a video that also speaks to it...
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 03:14 PM by maryf
its from a radical source, hope you can watch it the points are so good:

http://uhurunews.com/video/play?resource_name=free-russell-maroon-shoatz-uhuru-news-interviews-russell-maroon-shoatz-iii

Yours is much more disturbing about abuse, this one addresses the solitary confinement issue.

We have 25% of all the prisoners in the world...
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 03:22 PM
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3. # 1 in war. #1 in imprisonment, #1 in mental health probs, our #1 export is trash
#1 in food waste.

As if being #1 in imprisonment weren't bad enough, now we have illegal confinement and torture.

I'm soooo proud. What a sad nation we are.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 03:25 PM
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4. Very, very sad. Number one and only in deaths due to lack of health care...
:cry:
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 03:36 PM
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8. And yet, people continue to come here to live - many legally, some less so. If
it is really that bad, why do some many continue to come here?

I read in one thread that approximately 800,000 come here annually, legally, to live, and about 300,000 without documentation.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 03:51 PM
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10. The answer to that lies in two things:
The fact that the US is also number 1 in self-promotion....and in stealing other people's resourses. The Mexican and South American population follow the flow of their own resources to the US.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:25 PM
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12. And the folks from the European countries? Are they coming because
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 04:33 PM by Obamanaut
the Mexican and South American population is?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:30 PM
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14. Wave that flag!
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 06:34 PM by Catherina
The number of European immigrants to the US is paltry and I'll bet the majority of those are for marriage.

Mexico was the leading country of origin of the LPR population in 2009 (see Table 4). An estimated 3.3 million or 26 percent of LPRs came from Mexico. The next leading source country was the Philippines (0.6 million), followed by People’s Republic of China (0.5 million), India (0.5 million), and the Dominican Republic (0.4 million). Forty-two percent of LPRs in 2009 were born in one of these five countries. The 10 leading countries of origin, which also include Cuba, Canada, El Salvador, Vietnam, and the United Kingdom, represented 55 percent of the LPR population.

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/lpr_pe_2009.pdf


Hre's an interactive map to help you visualize that paragraph

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/03/10/us/20090310-immigration-explorer.html
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 02:30 AM
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21. That appears to be a whole lot of people coming to the US despite
"...I'm soooo proud. What a sad nation we are...."

One wonders why there are so many who (from what they say/type) seem not to like the US, remain. Personally, I like it here. And the numbers of folks coming here suggest many agree with me.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:25 PM
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13. and Mexico is one of the countries that has us beat
regarding the poverty/inequality ratio...see my post below.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 03:31 PM
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5. Thank you, Mary. I got bashed for having the temerity to voice this very issue, and for once, a
"progressive" source is speaking to it.

I feel vindicated, but I have to say that I am sick to death of the propensity of so many to bash and get rid of someone trying to bring the issue home.

Many thannks to the Nation for this! NOW, IF THEY WOULD JUST ADDRESS POVERTY IN THE SAME WAY!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 03:32 PM
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6. k&r
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 03:33 PM
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7. Proud and happy to be the #5 rec!
:applause: for a good and more ballanced article!
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:47 PM
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15. Proud to have your K&R!
:hi:
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 03:39 PM
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9. K & R n/t
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:01 AM
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22. thanks nt
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:51 PM
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16. K&R
Excellent read
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:54 PM
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17. I thought so...
ended my subscription a couple years ago...but they seem to be coming around of late, thanks!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:55 PM
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18. k/r
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:02 AM
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23. thanks nt
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:57 PM
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19. HUGE K & R !!!
:kick:
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 09:01 PM
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20. Thanks for the enthusiasm! nt
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 08:05 AM
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24. k&r
Good morning Mary!
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 08:10 AM
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25. Good morning!
thanks! buses frozen, delay here...
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 08:28 AM
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26. k&r

The new 'normal' and a veiled threat to us all.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 08:29 AM
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27. Be good now...
don't tattle, don't stand up for yourself or others...you'll end up in prison or the hole even :grr:
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