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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:21 PM
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The Franks/Paul ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’. Nader & Paul agree that it is a good thing.
And that is what this article is about.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/ron-paul-ralph-nader-agree-on-progressive-libertarian-alliance/

However, on Wednesday's broadcast of Freedom Watch on the Fox Business channel, Judge Napolitano sat down for an amiable interview with Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) and Ralph Nader to discuss a progressive-libertarian alliance in the 112th session of respective chambers in Congress.

Nader, who has recently called this coalition "the most exciting new political dynamic" in the US today, explained that it works well because both groups stand against corporatists who believe government should be run in the interests of corporations.


There is nothing in the article that even intimates that Nader & Paul are forming their own alliance but rather it was a discussion about Paul's alliance with Franks in this session of Congress and with Sanders in the last session.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:28 PM
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1. I sense a leap
Would Nader and Paul have agreed on the Grayson/Paul amendment to audit the Fed? Maybe. Would Nader have supported Paul voting against Wall Street reform that included that amendment?

Ron Paul, no thanks.




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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:34 PM
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2. Leap to what? The article is about Paul's coalitions with Frank & Sanders. It has fuck all to do
with Nader but rather praising the Paul alliances with progressives IN CONGRESS.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:41 PM
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4. Barney Frank isn't mentioned in the article. n/t
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:40 PM
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3. I have to disagree. Both Nader and paul are against the corporate give aways, and both believe the
banks should not be bailed out the way they were. Both believe the U.S. should be out of Afghanistan and Iraq, and corporatism is what makes both parties indistinguishable

Ralph Nader commented on this several days ago, it was reported in Raw Story

It isn't that they agree on specific issues, but that they could agree on some fundamental ones

I would not dismiss this potential alliance, Nader is no friend of the Democrats, and paul is no friend of the repukes, and if this materializes, it will be the Democrats who will be hurt more by this than the repukes



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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:43 PM
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6. What
are you disagreeing with?

"...both believe the banks should not be bailed out the way they were."

I asked: Would Nader and Paul have agreed on the Grayson/Paul amendment to audit the Fed? Maybe. Would Nader have supported Paul voting against Wall Street reform that included that amendment?


The bailouts have nothing to do with the Wall Street reform bill.

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:45 PM
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7. What I am saying is there are enough issues they agree on /nt
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:43 PM
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5. Not this "Lets ressurect Nader the Trader" crap again
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 04:46 PM by FreakinDJ
Any Jack Ass that can't see Ralph for the "Money Grubbing Sell Out" that he is might as well just go donate his vote and hard earned money to the GOP

Does anyone here forget "Operation Kaos" or that the GOP financed Ralph's last run at "Spoiling the Democratic Candidate's Chances"

Come on folks - Lets Try to Stay REALITY BASED here
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 05:05 PM
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8. Okay, that makes more sense.
I was intrigued by the thread talking about a Nader-Paul alliance, but two sitting senators makes a lot more sense. And I love/trust Franken.

If Senators Franken and Paul can find enough common ground to come up with some kind of civil libertarian/social democratic fusion, I'm all for seeing where it leads.

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