Arizona GOPer: Roe v. Wade Contributed To Tucson Shootings

[meegbear]

Source: TalkingPointsMemo.com

Arizona State Sen. Linda Gray (R) argued over the weekend that gun control is not the way to prevent another shooting like the one in Tucson. The real answer, she said when asked about preventing such a shooting in the future, is to better "respect the life of an unborn."

"It is ironic that today is the day 38 years ago that the Supreme Court said we do not have to respect the life of an unborn and we have gone through now more then a generation of people, a large number of people who believe that it is fine to take an infant prior to it being born and to kill it. What type of respect is that for human life?"

Politico's Ben Smith reports that Gray did an interview Sunday on George Washington University Radio's "Political Pulse," and said:

So now we have this generation of people who have that idea and it continues on, that why respect life if we can kill an infant who can't defend themselves. It goes back to the value in the creation of life and the respect for that life and if your not trained and have that type of character in realizing that all human life deserves respect this is what our country has come to.

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When asked whether she thinks "that it is a cultural issue that is leading our youth into delinquency and into committing acts like this," Gray replied: "Yes, I believe part of it is a cultural issue in the disrespect for human life."

[rfranklin]

1. But killing people in Afghanistan and Iraq is A-okay...

and murdering doctors is okay. And executing people is okay.

[Ian David]

4. We just need to make really smart bullets that don't kill pregnant women.

And that also won't kill the tiny babies that live in our sperm.

[Ian David]

2. I blame Elvis and his hip-shaking hillbilly music.

:sarcasm:

[JuniperLea]

3. The more they talk...

The more stupid they show themselves to be.

Yak it up, dumbasses.

[FiveGoodMen]

24. Yeah, but they make their listeners into slightly bigger idiots each time they say these things.

[provis99]

5. she got it exactly backwards. Roe v Wade led to the decline in crime.

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=did_iroe_v_wade/i_abort_crime

[sinkingfeeling]

6. What a pile of bulls**t!

[Monique1]

9. Good Grief!

[texshelters]

7. I have met Linda Gray at asked her questions about education

She seems like a direct disciple of Jan Brewer. Wow, is she out of touch with reality.

Where are the facts, Linda?

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[sharesunited]

8. Maybe the Tucson shooting was just misogyny.

Lochner wrote "Die Bitch" on the letter Giffords' office sent him.

Roe v. Wade was a decision respecting female reproductive dominion.

State Senator Gray should try to reconcile these additional pertinent facts.

[greiner3]

10. They make the stupid remarks;

And we dubunk them. Too bad the populace hears their sound bite and can't give a crap for our rebuttal.

[Lint Head]

11. If Linda Gray had been aborted we wouldn't have to listen to this insanity.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

12. If X is a recent tragedy, and Y is something I don't like, then Y caused X.

That's the "reasoning".

[DCKit]

13. Well Ms. Gray, now y'all get to preform a retro-active abortion.

Those wingers just don't get irony, at all.

[Book Lover]

14. No, it did not. (nm)

[damntexdem]

15. Well, given Loughner's age, Roe v Wade could have helped prevent the shooting.

If only his parents had . . .

;-)

[kentauros]

21. Right.

Because on the other side of the coin, he lives now because they made the choice to "respect the life of the unborn." And, well, we know where that led...

They just love to second-guess stuff like this, don't they? ;)

[Blue_Tires]

16. the sad part is just a week ago the right formed a strong backlash

to anyone who dared 'politicize' the shootings...

[flakey_foont]

17. oh, for gosh sakes!

[Plucketeer]

18. What a frickin' LUNATIC!!!

I can't IMAGINE what other contorted cause 'n effect secrets she clings to! :crazy: <- Linda Gray(R)

[CaliforniaPeggy]

19. Well, THAT'S a stretch if I ever hear one!

And BTW, it's not an infant before it's born. It's a fetus.

:eyes:

[aggiesal]

20. "... that the Supreme Court said we do not have to respect the life of an unborn ..." ...

This is not what the Supreme Court said.

The SCOTUS decided that each of us has a right to PRIVACY under the constitution,
and that includes with your physician.
The Gov't has no right to interfere with your personal and private medical decisions.

[Xipe Totec]

22. On the other hand, if Mrs Loughner had had an abortion....

None of this would have happened.

[struggle4progress]

23. Pfft! Roe was decided 15 years before Loughner was born, and there's no reason

to think Roe set him off

[orwell]

25. Actually...

...Statistics seem to indicate the opposite. Crime fell about 2 decades after Roe was passed.

Some believe that the termination of unwanted pregnancies leads to less crime because the children who are born on balance are wanted, so they are more likely to be raised in a more nurturing environment.

Of course I am painting with a broad brush here, but that doesn't seem to bother my ideological opponents.

[alp227]

26. What the hell do unborn children have to do with the Tucson shootings?

Oh, conservatives and their loose mouths. On the other hand, reality finds that violent talk radio rhetoric may have a bigger role. And empowering women to make their OWN reproductive choices respects life far more than forcing all pregnancies to term.

[hobbit709]

27. WTF?????

They really do live on a different planet in a different space-time continuum don't they.

[Cerridwen]

28. "if we can kill an infant who can't defend themselves"

THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is called staying on message.

First, her message is about Roe and it's going to permeate whatever it is she discusses. If she's very good, or her memo of talking points is very complete, she'll be able to tie traffic tickets to Roe.

Second, did you notice the "unborn" became an infant in a rather brief period of time? Yeppers. She got that cuddly, widdle, infant right in front of your face and being shot right there in Tucson in a matter of sentences.

THAT is called staying on message and message control. That's what it looks like on their side.

You have no chance, zero, of combating or correcting that punch to the lizard brain she just delivered.

Framing the message/debate. Words matter.