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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:47 PM
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MSNBC has really messed up
I'm trying hard to watch Cenk, but it's difficult. I'd rather watch Rachel for a two hour block.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:49 PM
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1. MSNBC tries to airbrush Cenk and in doing that, they take out everything
that makes him interesting.

I don't know if it's the lighting or the makeup or what. But his TYT's segments are much better than his MSNBC segments.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:03 PM
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15. I was afraid of that
I don't watch TV, so I haven't seen his new show, but I figured they'd try to fix his chortling "you've gotta be kidding me" Regular Joe persona. Dumb move.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:07 PM
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17. I can't figure it out. Maybe it's the tighter shot
where at TYT's, you could see his body language, the whole package, as well where on COMCASTNBC, you can only see his head. :shrug:

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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:09 PM
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22. Rachel's first couple of shows were horribly produced
The lighting was awful, there were audio glitches all over the place. I don't know who they have running their segments behind the scenes for new shows but they suck at it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:13 PM
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28. My lightbulb for today is that Cenk is better in the shot they use
at TYTs, where you can see the whole Cenk behind the desk, and not better at COMCASTNbc, where you usually only see the Cenk head. :)
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:52 PM
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2. Its the same doggone rhetoric. Just a different person reading it.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:53 PM
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3. It's hard to make a show
I have a feeling it will get better as they fill in the infrastructure around him. Needless to say right now they are a little overextended. That was the big question is why didn't they leave the countdown infrastructure in place and then place someone in it, rather than have a massive shake up? My only guess is not using countdown format was part of the deal with KO.
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:08 PM
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18. good points n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:16 PM
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32. It is hard to make a show. n/t
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:54 PM
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4. Catch him now pointing out how dangerous Beck is ... on this woman he's targeting. n/t
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:55 PM
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5. What did they do, cut her off all of a sudden? n/t
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:57 PM
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6. That was VERY strange. n/t
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:59 PM
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11. It was like the producer said something in the ear pierce to them, like stop. n/t
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:00 PM
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14. that was the impression that I got
Edited on Mon Jan-24-11 07:01 PM by eShirl
maybe they ran out of time, now tweety's on
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:57 PM
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8. that was weird
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:58 PM
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9. Looked to me like memory loss.
:shrug:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:59 PM
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10. That was weird. It cut off right Piven talked about how the unemployed s/b protesting and rallying.
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:00 PM
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12. yeah, what happened there?
...you could obviously tell we weren't getting audio at the end of it. But then Cenk acted like it was the end of the interview without explaining what happened to the audio...
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:08 PM
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19. It was like someone told them both to shut up
they both seemed stunned and confused. It was actually creepy the way it happened.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:57 PM
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7. it seems to be awful.

damn.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:00 PM
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13. I LOVE CENK!!!! nt
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:10 PM
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23. I do too, I think his show will get better
as he gets more comfortable.
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:11 PM
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25. +1 to that
We don't get US cable news in the UK, so TYT is the only real news I get from the states.

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:04 PM
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16. I'll give him a chance. You can tell he was uncomfortable today.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:12 PM
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26. Yep! I thought his show got better as he went on... I think Cenk does a lot better
when he's ad libbing than reading the monitor prompts.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:13 PM
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29. Yeah, it must be difficult to be sent in
to try and fill KOs shoes so suddenly with only having the weekend to prepare.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:18 PM
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35. Yeah, he's pretty free and easy on TYT. I'm sure MSNBC is far more rigid. nt
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:08 PM
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20. Ok I'm going out on a limb here...
But I'm guessing the majority of those who don't like Cenk are 40+ y/o who care little for Cenk's constant critiques Obama. Just keep in mind that is the younger folks watching TYT on mass that got Cenk this far. If you don't like him, then I'm sorry. He plays to a different group, a younger audience. I do see how KO resonated well with the old school liberals, but I don't recon Cenk is that kind of guy.

That said, I'm hella glad he is on primetime, I just hope he stays true to what got him this far...which I trust he will.

On a different note, for once I'm sad that I can't get MSNBC in the UK, oh well.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:11 PM
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24. I'm WAY older and I've always loved Cenk! And I'm critical of our prez, too. nt
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:14 PM
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30. Haha, I guess all generalizations are wrong
Including that one...^

:hi:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:20 PM
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38. LOL yeah I think so! :-) nt
:hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:15 PM
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31. I'm way over 40 and I like Cenk very much.
Most who don't like him don't like any criticism of the president.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:17 PM
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33. I'm over 40 and I LOVE Cenk
I really don't see that age has anything to do with. Though maybe even being over 40 I'm one who thinks young. :shrug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:18 PM
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34. I'm out that that age group and love Cenk.
I don't think age is the deal. Maybe it's more do you support the party or do you support your issues kind of thing.
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:19 PM
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37. No, I like him on TYT - I think it's the
Edited on Mon Jan-24-11 07:20 PM by my2sense
format and the nervousness which will work itself out. And yes, I'm over 40! LOL
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:20 PM
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39. You are wrong. I love both KO and Cenk. 43 years old.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:41 PM
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42. Under 40, and a huge fan...

of KO's. :hi:
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 08:08 PM
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44. I'm 65 and I love Cenk!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:09 PM
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21. bound to be some growing pains
I didn't catch his show today, but given the suddenness of the move I'm sure it will have a chance to get better in the days and weeks to come. (I know he's filled in a number of times, but even so ...)
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:19 PM
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36. WHAT "days and weeks to come"...???
If you think he'll be on any longer than five days, you're dreaming. They'll have a permanent, "moderate" host in by Monday...or else a different replacement.

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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:36 PM
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41. perhaps n/t
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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:12 PM
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27. I thought he had some great moments
He shut down that dude from GOProud so hard I felt bad for the guy, and the interview with Frances Fox Piven was really good until it randomly ended. Also, who doesn't love Robert Reich? I think Cenk was a little nervous, but I still found the show very enjoyable.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:20 PM
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40. Watching him for more than 5 minutes is laborious at best.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:45 PM
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43. Stopped watching after friday. Feel so much better.
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MedfordTim Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 09:19 PM
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45. Ofercryin'outloud....
FIRST DAY, folks!

Can we have a little PERSPECTIVE, please? (I'm guessing PATIENCE is TOO MUCH to ask....)
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