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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:32 AM
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Thank You President Obama. Your dedication to Dismantling Social Security is Greatly Appreciated.
This makes me sick. Now it's all out in the open. Obama said Social Security is a cause of our deficits: FALSE. His destruction of the Democrats' most important social program will permanently cripple our party for years to come. An excerpt from a WSJ piece:

To build confidence, the White House will start where common ground is clearest. The president is looking for bipartisan cooperation on a business-friendly South Korea trade deal, a rewrite of the No Child Left Behind education law and a major transportation and infrastructure bill.

The most significant moves will involve the federal budget, and White House officials say they are examining all three areas addressed by a White House debt commission: spending cuts in the near term, and tax and Social Security overhauls for medium- and long-term deficit control.

Mr. Obama plans to propose a slate of spending cuts in his 2012 budget proposal, working off a menu of options laid out by the commission, officials said. And the White House is quietly promoting talks between Sens. Dick Durbin (D., Ill.) and Tom Coburn (R., Okla.), both members of that commission, on legislation that would cut domestic spending.
The tax deal is lending momentum to that effort, Sen. Durbin said. "Let's use this as our template to do the hard part."

Changing Social Security would be even harder politically because liberal interest groups have united against any cut to promised benefits, but the president remains interested, White House officials say. "That's a long term challenge that we have to face," Mr. Axelrod said.

The administration also wants to move forward on the commission's recommendations on tax reform, which involve trimming tax breaks and loopholes to lower income-tax rates and shrink the deficit.
On both Social Security and tax reform, administration officials cautioned that they were more likely to issue broad ideas to launch a multiyear discussion than to propose a specific plan.

The Rest: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704073804576023992440341566.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:36 AM
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1. yet another president who takes his orders from
The Wall Street Urinal
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:40 AM
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2. I wouldn't say it's a true dismantling...yet.
Edited on Fri Dec-17-10 09:46 AM by Selatius
The promise is that the SS payroll tax holiday ends in two years.

The PROBLEM is that Republicans in two years will bet that most people forgot that it was a temporary cut and not a permanent one. They will then insist that the payroll tax cut should be extended another two years or simply made permanent.

The political route would suggest that you turn it into a political football. Every two years, you come out and say the Democrats are going to raise taxes on your income, so you should support further extending the payroll tax cut for another two years and so on and so forth ad nauseam.

Besides, many people here deluded themselves into thinking he was the next liberal hope. He never ran his campaign as being the next FDR.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:51 AM
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4. Obama is ready to accept the Social Security proposals from the Catfood Commission.
Not only was a payroll tax holiday a disaster, but those proposals (draconian benefit cuts) will dismantly Social Security.

Despite the fact he didn't run as FDR, I never thought a Democrat would trade away Social Security. This is despicable and unacceptable.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:46 AM
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3. He's trying to get in the record book
as the first president to step on the third rail without a scratch. Heck, he's not just gonna touch it, he's gonna blow it up.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:53 AM
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5. I know
I am both furious and aching in pain for what this will do to us.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:21 AM
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11. Without a scratch? He's delusional if he thinks that. He's getting burnt right now. (nt)
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:08 AM
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6. I got one thing to say...
Leave my Social Security alone!
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:08 AM
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7. Seconded!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 02:08 PM
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14. Thirded.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:10 PM
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17. Fourthid.
:)
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mr clean Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:15 PM
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19. Fifted
Is that a word?
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:15 PM
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20. Is fourthid?
:shrug: :P ;) :hi:

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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:25 AM
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26. sixthed n/t
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:09 AM
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8. What were once just "disappointed supporters" of Obama...
will quickly become bitter enemies if he really does wantonly try to destroy Social Security. :thumbsdown:
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:20 AM
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10. Yes, they will become enemies, pure and simple.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:20 AM
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9. Well. At least the "professional left" has been upgraded to "liberal interest groups".
The hell with them. I'm done with Obama and his band of merry DLC liars.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 11:21 AM
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12. "It took Nixon to go to China"
It took a Democrat to start the destruction of Social Security.

The rich choose their employees well.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 11:59 AM
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13. Exactly
We were scammed good
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:52 PM
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15. It really is the perfect setup
the Left won't organize to protest a politician who wears the team colors even if he plays for the opposition, and the Right will keep screaming "Librul Socialist!!" which gives the dino permission to push further into the realm of corporate fascism. The ruling class gets everything it wants without any real kerfluffels being thrown their way by the confused and disorganized bottom 98%. What left winger is going to push hard against a charismatic African American who is well educated and comes from humble roots? He's supposed to be on OUR side, right? Bzzzzt!
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:23 AM
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25. reality perfectly described.
and THAT is EXACTLY why obama was allowed to be president. he was the perfect trojan horse for the rulers of america.

and it is the general modus operandi of the democratic party.

this should be nothing new to people paying attention without psychological blinders.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:02 AM
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27. He threw the people a bone today. It didn't cost his corporate buddies a dime
but it was enough that the tax betrayal of yesterday was instantly forgotten and forgiven.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:51 AM
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32. well, fist of all, not forgotten and forgiven by me, but second....
.....i fail to see the big deal about repealing DADT. so now gay people can serve u.s. imperialism openly. wow.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:23 AM
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31. PRECISELY ... it couldn't be more perfect
for them... we were so had. :mad:
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:08 PM
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16. The attack on Social Security is indeed bi-partisan.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:13 PM
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18. Recommend.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:18 PM
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:21 PM
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22. "Obama said Social Security is a cause of our deficits"...
Where did he say that?

Sid
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:23 PM
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23. Dismantling social security?
I smell hyperbole.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 11:29 PM
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24. 'The administration wants to move forward on the commission's recommendations on tax reform'.
So, a top tax rate around 25% paid for by closing or curtailing lower and middle class deductions as Simpson and Bowles suggested.

The defining lines between Democrats and Republicans are certainly getting fluid these days aren't they?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:07 AM
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:53 AM
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29. K and R
K and R
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:59 AM
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30. How republican of our president.
:thumbsdown:
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