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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:58 AM
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What I want to hear from Barack Obama tonight and it's a very simple statement -
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 10:00 AM by LynneSin
"I will not sign any bill that will make cuts to Social Security."

He says that and I'll be happy to start up my 2012 campaign to re-elect him. If he doesn't then it's going to be a 'Wait and See'.

Mind you, this is for the primaries ONLY. I recognize that if he wins the primaries, he has my vote. But I would campaign with much more enthusiasm for someone who is protecting Social Security.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:59 AM
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1. Absolutely....
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:00 AM
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2. "...that slashes cuts to Social Security" ??
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 10:01 AM by frazzled
So you want a bill that does cut Social Security (rather than one that slashes those cuts?). Don't press the "post message" button before you've re-read what you wrote.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:01 AM
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9. don't be a jerk when someone makes a grammar issue
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 10:02 AM by LynneSin
:D

Since we do have edit abilities

Geez!
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:39 AM
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23. It wasn't just a grammar issue
The entire meaning was inverted. It was a helpful suggestion, and soon after I made it the OP was able to see the error and change it.

Thanks for calling me a jerk.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:47 AM
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25. Well probably because if the roles were reverse I would have sent a Private PM
instead of trying to be some hot shot 'ooo gotcha' grammer patrol that people crave doing.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:00 AM
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3. Words mean very little unless they are backed up with actions /nt
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:01 AM
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7. True but it is something we can hold him accountable
instead of his usual fence-sitting.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:20 AM
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27. You are right /nt
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:01 AM
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8. Yeah, we did have that promise of a public option, didn't we? nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:00 AM
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4. I would like to see richies cut from the program.
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:02 AM
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10. Hey, Maybe They'll Use Their SS to Pay Their Big Taxes. eom
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:12 AM
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14. means testing?
bad idea
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:23 AM
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19. and SS is dead within a generation.
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 10:23 AM by Statistical
The rich cost SS very little and removing them turns it into welfare.

Hell you cut the rich out I might stop supporting SS (an I am not "rich"). Why?
If the government can change the rules at the last minute after a lifetime of contribution what is to say it won't happen to more people in the future?

There is no "guarantee" for Social Security. The only guarantee you have is that Congress won't cut it or change it in the future. They start dropping "the rich" to be punitive well that is a vote of no confidence for me.

If that happens I would support a program that lets me opt out. Rather put the 13% into my 401K each year than pay into a system which would change the rules at the last minute.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 09:59 AM
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31. I would tell you to take your 401 K and go have fun.
:hi:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:42 AM
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30. ditto
There's nothing progressive about taking from the working poor and giving it to the idle rich.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:01 AM
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5. +1000 nt
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:01 AM
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6. That's what I'm waiting for too. n/t
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:03 AM
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11. Just do me a favor...
...don't hold your breath waiting... ok?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:05 AM
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12. After almost suffocating during the HCR period, I know better
but thank you for your concerns :D
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:05 AM
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13. Good luck with that.

Seems like the entire political establishment is on board and the money men are pushing hard.

The heavy emphasis on 'getting things done'(anything...) and bipartisanship tells me that we're getting the shaft, the only debate will be about details.
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:14 AM
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15. Obama Demands: The Bill I Sign Must Include Public Option
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/obama-demands-the-bill-i-sign-must-include-public-option.php

I don't know what to believe anymore... I want more than just words.

:(
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:45 AM
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24. I want Obama declaring that property is theft...
...calling for les aristos a la lanterne, and appointing Dawn Johnsen as Attorney General.

Anything less, he's sold me out.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:16 AM
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16. that's not his style
also, imo, it's not his intention. He doesn't take hard lines, and there's nothing to suggest that he'd pick Social Security to take a hard line on.
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MahayanaLotus Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:17 AM
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17. And In That Same Vein Of Impossibilities...
1. Remove our military from all foreign countries.
2. Actually mention "How" he will make a change; some real details here not just slogans.
3. Actively set into motion a plan to restore jobs & homes.
4. Keep American $$ for Americans.

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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:23 AM
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18. the wars don't bother you? I guess you were just protesting
in NYC and DC back then when I met you because Bush was a republican! I KNEW IT!!! :D
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:30 AM
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21. They do bother me and some are winding down
but this is something that is important to me too.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:28 AM
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20. We're entering the era of civility now. Wouldn't be civil
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crazyjoe Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:30 AM
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22. definietly, lets' forget all the crap he's been pulling and concentrate on this.
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 10:31 AM by crazyjoe
anyway, obama say's a lot of things
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:59 AM
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26. I hope you get your wish. - n/t
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:23 AM
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28. Isn't it kind of sad, really, that it has come to such thinking?
Recall the hope and optimism ahead of health care reform? Remember the talk of single payer? Then we got what we got.

Now we'd be happy if he doesn't destroy the "third rail" of politics.

A transformational president is what he was called.

How prescient.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:24 AM
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29. Not. Going. To. Happen.
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