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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:17 AM Original message |
Exclusive: US empire could collapse at any time, Pulitzer winner tells Raw Story |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. I wonder if he reads DU. n/t |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:24 PM Original message |
More likely he reads the Psychic Hotline Handbook. He uses their methods, afterall. |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. It is in the process of collapsing. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. This latest Tax Cut for the Rich |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. I'd recommend getting your hands on Matt Taibbi's "Griftopia"... |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. It's getting valid enough, I don't see why you have to not speak |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Let's not be shy... Obama has fostered corporate crime ... from bailouts to "preserving" privated |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #66 |
81. Thanks to both posters for the reply. I don't at all mean to be shy, but |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. You've made a great point -- |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #87 |
162. Cheney |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #81 |
212. The answer is, it's not 'the peoples' government any more. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
122. If Matt wrote it.... |
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AC_Mem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
124. Food Prices! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #124 |
195. A brand of frozen pizza I get occasionally was $5 in 2004, now it's almost $8. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
114. Wish I could disagree. Here's what I have the biggest problem with; |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #114 |
175. Members of the 'ignorant wingnut base' |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. K & R! |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. 'A corporate coup d'état in slow motion' |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. ... and the "slow motion" is morphing into "fast motion". |
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AC_Mem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:06 AM Response to Reply #14 |
125. When the sands of time |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #125 |
190. Good points. The big question is, is there anything that could |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
179. The point of no-return |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #179 |
191. I totally agree with your assessment. But, I interpret your "upon us" |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
69. I'd call 2000 to 2010 FAST motion |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:54 PM Response to Reply #69 |
101. 2000 to 2008 |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
163. It won't be slow when we hit the debt ceiling in April |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #163 |
172. Ironically .... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #172 |
183. A Republican president |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #163 |
182. You probably have it nailed. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
5. The First Rule of Empire: All Empires Decline and Fall over time |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
6. So, is HE panting with anticipation, too? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. sure. Hedges is undoubtedly a secular apocalyptic |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I tend to agree with all of what you said. |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. My real question is: Is this crumbling "part of a plan?" |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. No, Empires don't ever collapse, if you ask the power elites that is |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
67. They really DON'T collapse for the power elite: they just rebrand |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. hmm not quite |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #77 |
129. Something people forget about that collapse was the black death |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:26 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Just one correction |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #130 |
171. Interesting .... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #130 |
196. I believe he means the 6th Century Plague of Justinian. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #196 |
204. I am thinking the Black Death with came though Venice |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:56 PM Response to Reply #196 |
209. That was what I was referring too... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #209 |
225. No problem! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I don't know. I tend to be an Occam's razor sort of person. |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. They're building "Armegeddonvilles" around where I live. |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. whoa - what state is this in? |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Michigan. Things have been bad here for a long time. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Radicalized like 1930s radicalized? |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
63. Not sure what you mean by 1930s radicalized, Nadin. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. In the 1930s we had food riots |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #70 |
88. No food riots yet, but other problems, such as |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Yes, it is the depression AGAIN |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. The local tv stations only covered the fire because it was seen |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Well I hope my neighbors |
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haikugal (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #92 |
126. May I as you |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:11 AM Response to Reply #126 |
128. American Red Cross |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #92 |
173. A few months ago .... |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
78. The empire will fall, but the country won't. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
68. For quite some years now, the mall at Short Hills in NJ, has featured HUGE IRON DOOR/GATES |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Those sound like great rose trellises! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #71 |
174. When you actually stand there and look at them.... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
127. Why would it matter? Would it make it his fault that an empire was built and collapsed? |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
7. I've got $1000 that says he is wrong |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Or, global warming gone so bad that it will |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Food Producing Abilities |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
89. Don't think we're talking 50 years ..... |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Right but.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #93 |
112. Every state has problems with Global Warming including the |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:58 AM Response to Reply #112 |
136. I don't understand. Aquifers are renewable. Our's in So. La |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:39 AM Response to Reply #136 |
139. Aquifers are renewable but.. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #136 |
166. Good -- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 05:41 AM Response to Reply #166 |
216. Just a PS to that response .... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #136 |
184. Many of the midwest aquifers are prehistoric. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 05:44 AM Response to Reply #184 |
217. Thank you ... I had just come back to try to make my original comments clearer .... |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
133. Actually, Arkansas has adequate rainfall |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:49 AM Response to Reply #133 |
140. Arkansas & Fish |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:32 AM Response to Reply #10 |
138. Aquifers are also being drained or poisoned by energy processing at even a faster rate. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #138 |
186. The greedy corporatists already |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
72. That's already happening ... we've been feeling effects of Global Warming since at least 1980's.... |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Try & buy food or fuel without any of that fantasy stuff. |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
159. Bartering |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:08 AM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Yes, I think it might come to that. |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. The collapse of US empire is not the collapse of the US as a nation |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
74. Think we're all trying to figure out exactly what it means ... collapse of MIC? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Correction: In a fiat currency, money is worth something because OTHERS believe it |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
75. And looks like the world is seeing an America "unable to pay up" ... ??? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:10 AM Response to Reply #75 |
152. Poor fiscal policies can destroy a fiat currency. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 05:50 AM Response to Reply #152 |
218. Well, bailing out corrupt and criminal capitalists was forced upon the public .... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 06:03 AM Response to Reply #218 |
219. The argument slides both ways. The same public voted in these crooks to begin with. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 06:16 AM Response to Reply #219 |
220. We also voted for Obama and CHANGE ... these voters didn't vote for what they got--!! |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 07:05 AM Response to Reply #220 |
222. I agree on the last statement, but I fear achieving that could mean a nasty fight, with many deaths. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 07:17 AM Response to Reply #222 |
223. We have to try to continue to find ways which cut corporate power .... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
150. Gold is a fake fiat currency propped up by belief just like any other currency n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 06:17 AM Response to Reply #150 |
221. There may be people on street corners trying to buy bread with gold.... |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
157. What use do you have in your daily life that would bring ANY |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. And I've gotba slew of empires who'se citizens believed as you do |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
76. Don't disagree with you, nadin -- but think there is a lot of it many of us here ... |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. You're not quite right. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
91. The ride down is much different from the ride up -- |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:35 AM Response to Reply #91 |
131. Twilight Zone |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 05:34 AM Response to Reply #131 |
215. Dont think I ever saw it -- but think .... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
64. "we have survived worse." |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #64 |
160. A: 1860-1865 |
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Demstud (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
8. Doubt it |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
11. It already has |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. laying mortally wounded, but still dangerous |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Teeth? |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Agree |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
85. Unfortunately, the "nukes" are always a consideration ... |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #85 |
104. Yes, the nukes are there |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #104 |
113. That's already happened .... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. It hasn't fully and the illusion is still there |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
65. "meaning cuts to entitlements" |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
84. Cuts to entitlements |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #84 |
95. No -- once you create a Medicare or SS where wealthy only pay in and don't |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. What I'm saying is |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #100 |
108. US government spends NOTHING on Social Security ..... |
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erodriguez (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #108 |
120. That is until Pres. Obama signs the tax cut bill. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #120 |
168. Don't understand all the implications .... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:41 AM Response to Reply #100 |
134. Actually, means testing for SS and Medicare will spell the death of each program |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:14 AM Response to Reply #100 |
137. Just because one has a debt the money isn't there? |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:58 AM Response to Reply #137 |
142. Again... |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 04:09 AM Response to Reply #142 |
151. If you have lost faith in your dollars, would you please send |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #151 |
177. It's socially responsible government which keeps people and nations going .... |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #177 |
202. Yup. And we are being so irresponsible now it is sickening. n/t |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:10 PM Original message |
You really are not interested in what it means |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #151 |
181. You really are not interested in what it means |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #181 |
200. You misread my message or maybe I wrote badly. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #200 |
203. First WE STILL grow apples in Washington |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #203 |
206. I never said we don't grow apples here. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #206 |
208. Alas we are at the same point I was |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #151 |
187. You didn't read |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #187 |
201. I read it. I disagree with the path suggested. n/t |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 03:00 AM Response to Reply #100 |
143. they are taking care of that with letting the elderly die. Right now the majority of the |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
82. Found your comments very interesting .... |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. re: re; re: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #90 |
105. Thanks for the reply .... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #90 |
106. ... and glad to hear your report on Canadian government ... !! |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 02:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
141. China is less than a quarter of our debt I had heard. Other debt holders include somewhere by |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 03:18 AM Response to Reply #141 |
148. China |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 03:24 AM Response to Reply #148 |
149. Good points. WE are the holder of a great deal of debt. The money, the stocks, bonds, etc |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
164. I'm at the point where I am not certain if our military is |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
19. oh dear |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
22. I hope it doesn't happen this weekend... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Gahahahaha! |
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Buns_of_Fire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Lemme check my calendar... Well, Jesus is returning in May, and the Mayans have us scheduled for |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Sid...you |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
23. ROFL |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
29. The country may collapse but the corporate empires will remain. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
109. During Little Boot's reign |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #109 |
188. Their New World Order does |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #29 |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
35. Chris Hedges is the only guest for Bob McChesney - Sunday 2pm ET - streaming |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. I hope I can remember about this!!!!! |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #45 |
224. Hoping this helps |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
37. Define collapse |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. USSR style collapse that is what he is talking about |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. If you're talking about "Empire runs out of money" then that is well underway |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. No we are not there YET |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Cities and some States are already turning insolvent |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Yes, and it still can and will get much worst |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. No, I have seen failed states |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Oh absolutely |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. No I think it will be better than the USSR scenario |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I expect the country to break up |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I have noticed it too |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Here since I went looking |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 03:13 AM Response to Reply #54 |
146. But where will I send my bill payments to since they all go to Texas right now? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #52 |
110. At least the river doesn't catch on fire, anymore. |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 03:12 AM Response to Reply #52 |
145. I am glad that you brought that up. I would like to propose that everyone Dem move to |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #145 |
167. Our biggest challenge will be keeping warm. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #52 |
165. I'm already nervous about a visit to Florida |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #52 |
176. So does this guy. |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #176 |
178. Buy lots of books, including ones that would help for medical issues |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #178 |
185. Two nurses(me and a niece) in the family, |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #185 |
192. Thought of something else you'll need: A Greenhouse! |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #192 |
198. Thanks! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #178 |
189. Although at the moment |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #189 |
193. It will take awhile in Michigan to deplete the deer population. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #193 |
197. I have commend the Ohio Department |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #197 |
199. Michigan's DNR has been less successful. I almost got ran over by a herd |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #199 |
210. We have two |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 12:33 AM Response to Reply #178 |
211. I recommend Carla Emery's Country Living Guide nt. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
99. A Yugoslavia scenario is also not desired |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Yeah that be a nightmare |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
116. The USSR collapse hurt a lot of people |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Absolutely |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Collapse... I worry about this.. constantly |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
56. With all due respect - I have the answer |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
50. Well I do wish the Empire part of the US would collapse |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
53. I love threads like this. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
55. Chris Hedges, verily a credible authority on everything. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
58. The US empire will not collapse, it will wane... |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. I agree with that for a variety of reasons. However, I think the US could |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. It may or it may not be. |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. So then China and India must have populations that are less |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Have you been to either China or Inidia recently? |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:51 PM Response to Reply #83 |
123. Okay. The main thought that struck out to me in reading your last |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 03:11 AM Response to Reply #123 |
144. No worries... |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 03:17 AM Response to Reply #80 |
147. And died so young too. |
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Citizen Worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
59. Some DUers may remember that the venerable Henry Kissinger said the US was in decline in the early |
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FarLeftRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
107. Venerable my ass.... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:51 AM Response to Reply #107 |
135. He's lucky he's not in the dock at the Hague for Chile 1972 and Cambodia ca. 1969 - n/t |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
79. A cooperative 21st century |
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justinsb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
97. Hmmm... |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:04 AM Response to Reply #79 |
156. Thank you for another perspective.... |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
86. The wealthy are starting to tear meat off the bone |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #86 |
96. Excellent analogy. |
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mckara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:01 PM Original message |
I Hope He's Right! |
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mckara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
103. I Hope He's Right! |
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brettdale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
111. I gave up |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
115. Better use those holiday gift cards pretty soon, then. |
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libmom74 (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
117. it would be nice |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. It is going to be more than two |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #117 |
180. As long as they don't get Virginia! n /t |
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elzenmahn (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
121. Hedges is a prophet and a patriot... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:12 AM Response to Original message |
153. K&R nt |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 06:32 AM Response to Original message |
154. We`re definitely on our way down, if not out. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #154 |
169. Ever read Townies in the NYT |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #169 |
205. Wow, thanks for this link. She's brilliant! |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #169 |
207. She should win a Pulitzer for this. Outstanding. |
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FlyByNight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
155. Imperial collapse is certainly one way to reduce... |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
158. I have nothing but the highest respect for Mr. Hedges - he is perhaps my over all favorite political |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #158 |
170. By 2024 this will be a very different place. I bank on that. nt |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
194. Down with the empire! |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-10 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
213. But who is the Reagan of this era who will demand |
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214. He must... |
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