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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:44 PM
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Please Share Your Observations Re: Food Inflation
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 04:47 PM by Mike 03
Last Wednesday I went to my grocery store and noticed that a can of tuna that had previously been ninety-nine cents was selling for $1.58. Green olives had shot up from $6 - something to $8.98. Twelve rolls of toilet paper had gone from nine something to close to $12.

On an amusing sidenote, I returned to my grocery store this morning, and the tuna had a placard on it stating: Price Break for Members: Only $1.39! So last week they raised the price by sixty cents, and claim they are discounting it this week, although it is still forty cents higher than it was two weeks ago.

There were other price hikes too, in things like cheese, salad dressing, nuts and produce.

I fully anticipated food inflation, but I thought it would be subtle--two or three percent in January, three percent in February, etc... There was nothing subtle about this.

Anybody else noticing similar price hikes in your area?
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:47 PM
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1. Speaking of tuna it seems the cans have shrunk again from 6oz to 5 oz
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:49 PM
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4. In my area, most brands have gone from 5 lb to 4 lb bags.

And our tuna cans are shrinking, too.

Other stuff has gone up, but I can't give any specific prices.



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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 05:27 PM
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15. Did this a long time ago. Back in 2008.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:47 PM
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2. apples
1.29 per lb to 1.79 per lb. to 2.79 per lb.

astonishing
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:48 PM
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3. Yes from CT.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:50 PM
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5. Broccoli crowns $2.19/lb last week
It's the highest that I've seen since I've been paying attention four years ago.

Spices (allspice, cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves) were averaging $6-$7/ little shaker. WTF... It's going to be a bland summer if this keeps up.
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peacefreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 05:09 PM
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11. If you have a health food store nearby,
try buying them there. The bulk prices are much cheaper.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 07:56 AM
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22. not at our local health food store
they're almost always more expensive there
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:51 PM
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6. Eastern PA. Cukes= $1.00 each. WTH?! Cauliflower@$3.99. Lamb chops/$11.99lb. Tomatoes/$2.99lb.
I use coupons, BOGO's, buy frozen, etc.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:57 PM
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7. An article yesterday on Yahoo

Supermarket surprise: smaller servings, same price

Out of toilet paper so soon? Who the heck ate all of the Haagen Dazs? Why is this grilled cheese sandwich less cheesy than before?

Complaints like these household staples getting used up faster; food not lasting as long -- are becoming more common.

No, members of your household aren't being wasteful or taking extra helpings of dessert. Those boxes of pasta, rolls of paper towels, jars of pesto and packages of hot dogs really are getting smaller. But manufacturers hope that you haven't noticed.

Same look, less filling!
A recent Consumer Reports investigation found that the amount of dish detergent, toilet tissue, and first aid spray in those same old containers has shrunk as much as 20%.

http://news.yahoo.com/s//fool/20110124/bs_fool_fool/rx109081/

Theres a chart showing prior sizes of some products to the new sizes, including how much more each costs when the price remains the same.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:59 PM
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8. No, I really only buy sale items and stock up. If I can't get it on sale, I go without
I Don't buy toilet paper, dish soap, paper towels (I don't buy at all anymore. I use rags for cleaning), shampoo, toothpaste, garbage bags or pet food at grocery stores. Except for frozen veggies or ice cream, I don't buy frozen foods. Dollar General or Big Lots always have discounted household items, cleaning and laundry supplies. When shopping at grocery store, meats are usually manager's specials. I'll hit the dollar store for pop, candy or cookies, along with things like alcohol or hydrogen peroxide. Pant socks, first aid items and makeup are all bought at dollar store.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 05:06 PM
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9. Perhaps it is subtle: 50% this month, 50% the next, and so on.
What, you thought it was an American right to eat? ;-)
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 05:07 PM
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10. Yes and the package weights are getting smaller too.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 05:11 PM
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12. China must want more of our money to keep putting poison into Kraft cheese
toothpaste, dogfood, bread, crackers and other food stuffs. After all, poison from China is REALLY expensive now-a-days.

Tell me again who NAFTA benefits?
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Sonoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 05:13 PM
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13. It's global
People are either starving or doing without staple foods all over the globe.

Bulgur in Russia ans M E
Onions in India
Corn in Central America

It has nothing to do with production and everything to do with commodity profiteering. I know guys who bet on food stocks every day.

And I despise them for it.

Sonoman
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 05:26 AM
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20. "Smirk." - Speculators (R)
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 05:26 AM by SpiralHawk
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 05:15 PM
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14. Yup. I have noticed it big time. Haas avocados that were once $1.00 are now
twice that price, for example. It is shocking to me. I haven't noticed meat and dairy rising by as much, but OMG all produce is outrageous at this point and even a lot of canned, frozen and dry goods are getting noticeably pricier.

Sucks :(
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 09:16 AM
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24. The produce department where I shop had even gotten smaller
BIG tables of apples..but none under $1.59 a lb... One whole side is now prepared salads & prepared foods like mashed potatoes, carne asada, ravioli etc..and the attendant sauces, dressings etc.

The table with bananas has gotten larger, but the extras are exotics (most of which are just this side of rotten:(..) and RAISINS & dried fruits..

There are hardly any real specials anymore. Carrots are still a bargain, but that's about it.

We are fortunate in that I can buy whatever I want, but I am also a bargain-hunter, so I buy less produce now because I refuse to be ripped off..

We buy very few cuts of meats, so I just pay whatever because I am loathe to "try something new" that we won't like.

I look for chuck or round on sale & then have the butcher grind it for our hamburger..(it's usually cheaper even with the small "loss" from grinding it..and I know it all came from one piece of lean meat)
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 05:30 PM
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16. For the moment it seems like the price hikes in 2008 were worse but I have noticed...
they diameter of the toilet paper cores has gotten rediculously wider. (GA PACIFIC products)

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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:21 AM
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17. Yeah
And being on a fixed income I REALLY noticed it. 25 bucks and I come home with 1 bag half filled.
I'm fuckin' scared because if the assholes cut SSI I won't be able to make it. I also am ungodly pissed about the rich pigs and their comfy lives fostering such indifference to what is happening,to people on fixed incomes like I'm on. Funny a fixed income sure makes it hard to live when the prices for everything are fixed higher week to week.I'm beginning to feel revulsion at the 'middle class' soccer moms out here with their noses in the air..I wonder what they will do when they lose a job and can't shuttle the kiddies everywhere in that monster truck @ 350 a gallon?and find out what it's like to be poor and isolated. .I have paid the bills and been broke for nearly 2 weeks,food costs are insane where I am.. I have 4 bucks for my med refills set aside that's it..Tuna that used to be a buck a can is now a buck 75 a can and has more water in it too. Everything has gotten less food in it with a bigger box.Food prices have shot up like crazy.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 12:40 AM
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18. Kick, just in case others have views to share. NT>
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Prefix Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 03:40 AM
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19. I work in the Grocery Industry- a couple of things to add
It's very hard to explain this to customers when they question why prices rise. So much of it is due to market forces and commodity prices, which are very abstract. Either way, we are the bad guy because their favorite product is more expensive than it was. Let's use Ground Beef as an example of a product we're all seeing on the rise. Ground beef (and beef in general) is taking on a HUGE increase this year. Why?

-Fuel prices: Rising Fuel prices make it more expensive to transport feed stock to cattle farmers. That cost gets passed on to wholesalers in the price of the beef when it is sold to the wholesaler. Then there is also an additional expense in the trucking of the beef from cattle farm to wholesaler, which is tied to fuel prices. Once the wholesaler gets their hands on it, processes it, sells it to retailers, and then trucks it to retailers, it has taken on even more expense. It becomes exponential. A dime in gas price increase can lead to up to a dollar or more in per lb. price once you figure in how many entities get their piece of the pie. We haven't even scratched the surface in figuring in the costs of having a human grind the beef (in a machine that requires daily maintenance), wrap it, label it, and then stock it in a refrigerated case (which is running 24/7). Fuel is also linked to the "Grocery Shrink Ray" we've been seeing. It behooves manufacturers to get more cases/units on a truck to lower the cost of transport per unit sold. The answer to that is to reduce product size and keep the retail the same to recoop the extra expenses.

-Gross Margin: Gross Margin (or GM%) is the percentage over wholesale that you take in by selling a product. Grocers generally try to make between 25-30% margin, because the costs of operating are extremely high. Grocers generally only see about 1% in profit out of that 25-30% Here's an example of how GM% works:

Wholesale cost of product: $1.00
Target Gross Margin: 25%
Retail= $1.33

(wholesale cost/.75 = retail price) .75 represents 100%-25% converted to a decimal form.

Now, let's say the wholesale price of that product goes up $.10. One would think that you merely increase the retail price by $.10, right? Wrong.

Wholesale: $1.10
Target GM: 25%
Retail: $1.47

That $.10 increase on the wholesale price of goods has now become $.14. It is crucial for Grocers to maintain that GM%, as expenses for labor, utilities, cost of goods, marketing, etc. continue to rise. It ain't pretty for consumers (I'm one too!), but it's the reality of operating a business.

Some interesting things to think about as a consumer when you're in the grocery store:

-The average meal travels around 1400 miles on trucks to get to the grocery store. Buying and requesting local products and supporting local enterprise reduces fuel demands ($$$) and keeps money in your region.

-Produce such as berries, cherries, corn, some types of tomatoes used to never be available on a year-round basis. Since consumers now want them year-round basis, we source products from California and Chile to maintain supplies. That costs some serious $$ that gets passed along to you. The risks of carrying super-perishable items like those causes the prices of the products around them to rise as a form of protection of GM%.

-Careless and lazy shoppers take a bite out. Every time someone picks up a refrigerated item in one department, changes their mind, then sets it down in a non-refrigerated (or frozen) environment, that product is lost. The investment made in the product from the retailer's end becomes a negative figure, and the potential profit is lost as well. Don't just pick things up and set them down where they don't belong. It only costs you. Find someone to put it back for you if you don't want to walk. Same thing goes for things you purchase and return. If it's a refrigerated item that you decide you want to bring back for a refund, we have to throw it away, as we can't guarantee that it was held at a proper temperature outside of the store. That makes your prices go up as well. We understand this when a product is not good quality, or has gone bad. It irks us when there's nothing wrong with it and it ends up in the trash, and you walk away with your money.


I hope I don't come off as preachy or too experty. I'm just hoping to add some information to help others be more informed. Grocers rarely jack prices on goods that aren't already rising. Even then, it is only done to protect Gross Margin. Interestingly enough, there's a price war going on in my area where everyone is taking huge margin hits on staple items to drive customer traffic. It's all a part of being competitive in a market where Wal-Mart continues to attract our customers.

I hope that helps. If anyone has any other questions, I'd be glad to try to answer them!









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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 09:08 AM
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23. Oh customers understand.
That is why I'd never buy that burger you dragged from a thousand miles away. I buy local, grass fed meat from tiny outlets, the price is the same today as it was 5 years ago. Of course the mega markets can not be bothered to source locally or even regionally.
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Prefix Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 11:14 PM
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26. you seem to be well-informed about these issues...
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 11:15 PM by Prefix
You are in the minority, however. You'd be amazed at some of the customers that have no concept of the fact that fruit grows on trees, sometimes we only have 39 of something when they want 40, and that there is no mythical place called "The Back Room" where we have an extra case of everything in the store.

You're dead on about local foods. You never have 8 other entities getting their hands on it, jacking up the price along the way. It's unfortunate that the business model is so screwed up, as it's leading to a lot of unforeseen negative consequences that were grounded in ideas like "convenience" and "variety". Local farmer's markets are definitely a great way to 1. know where your food is coming from, 2. save some serious $, and 3. eat healthier.

By the way, I'm not the enemy. I'm just a guy that works in a grocery store.

Edit: insert a period at the end of a sentence.
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 07:46 AM
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21. there is a double whammy happening here
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 07:49 AM by melm00se
first off is the rise in oil prices which are driven by 2 things.

First, increasing demand worldwide, especially in China and the weakening of the US dollar vis-a-vis other world currencies (this impacts the costs to produce and ship products - take tuna for example: try catching it without petro fuels; processing it without petro fuels; transportation - getting it to the various distribution points and retail outlets without petro fuel).

second (and this impacts produce), weather. it has been a hard winter, especially in Florida and California where the food is produced. Weather has negatively impacted the growing season there. Now couple that with the bad weather up and down the east coast, the snarled transportation has slowed deliveries so more and more spoilage has occurred along the supply chain.

Now I am certain that there are opportunists who are using this to increase their pricing above and beyond what inflation would "normally" account. For example: raising prices to have a "sale", IIRC there are laws on the books to address these actions.

It's only going to get worse as long as energy prices continue to increase - energy is one of the main piece of the foundation of a modern technological society and how that goes (regardless if the government includes that in the inflation indicies or not) is how all other costs go.
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delightfulstar Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 09:35 AM
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25. I hate the "fake" sales...
They tout an item on a 10 for $10 "sale," then you go to the store, and the shelf tag indeed has the right price, but then it says "Everyday Low Price" underneath. The Kroger-owned stores are notorious for pulling that little trick.

The biggest on I noticed was $2.89 for a 5 lb. bag of potatoes...they used to be about a dollar cheaper. Eggs seem to have shot up here too...close to $2 a dozen. I stock up when things are cheap, especially if meat, produce or staple items (flour, sugar, coffee, cereal) are on a good sale, and I try to use coupons when I can, because almost everyone doubles them here.
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