did he just say frivolous law suits...

[sasha031]

[Danger Mouse]

1. yeah, he did.

:banghead:

[gateley]

5. There ARE some frivolous medical lawsuits - absolutely ridiculous. Do you think

they're all legit and nobody's trying to get money for nothing?

[Danger Mouse]

27. Of course, but I think our ridiculously bloated defense budget and the tax cuts for the wealthy...

and our bloated insurance industry run system are much bigger problems.

[gateley]

29. I couldn't agree more. nt

[eridani]

49. What they are trying to get money for is to pay their goddam future health care expenses

This is true whether or not there was actual malpractice or just a poor outcome. Why do you think that French GPs pay $150/year (and specialists $650/year) for malpractice insurance? Because EVERYONE (NO EXCEPTIONS) has guaranteed health care. Therefore they have no motivation to use the courts as providers of health care expense.

[dkf]

2. Mcdonalds coffee spill?

[Dennis Donovan]

7. That was a commercial lawsuit...

...not a medical malpractice lawsuit.

[dkf]

11. Just saying that there is such a thing as a frivolous lawsuit.

[Webster Green]

25. You are dead wrong about that one.

Pitiful. You got suckered by predators.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

30. You don't know shit about that case do you? Figures. nt

[jberryhill]

31. The multiple skin grafts were not frivolous

I would not wish what happened to that woman on anyone.

[Hello_Kitty]

37. And the point of the punitive damages was that McD's had been warned, repeatedly about it

Others had been seriously burned before her.

[jberryhill]

38. It's really sad that people don't know the facts of that case

...and what Mcd's was doing to save on free refills.

[Luminous Animal]

39. And dfk won't respond and will most likely pop up with the same misinformation

another day.

[closeupready]

51. If past can be prologue, yes, probably.

Maddeningly, too! :mad:

[Hello_Kitty]

14. That 79 year old woman was seriously burned

And then a judge substantially reduced the award anyway.

The McDonald's coffee spill, really, dkf?

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[Liquorice]

17. That wasn't as frivolous as people make it to be. The coffee caused 3rd degree burns. nt

[Webster Green]

23. That poor woman had 3rd degree burns over 16% of her body.

There is a new documentary about it, called 'Hot Coffee. It was featured on Democracy Now! today. Part of the interview was about how little the public knows about the actual incident, and how it was constantly cited as an example of frivolous law suits.

Check it out. You can still edit your idiotic post.

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/1/25/do_you_know_the_full_story

Don't believe everything you think!

[roxiejules]

48. Hot Coffee

Thanks for posting the link - great information and looks like a good movie.

Amazing to find out that the plantiffs would have settled for $50,000 in the hot coffee case, but McDonald's refused and wanted to go to trial. In fact, it sounded as though they would have not gone to court at all if McDonald's had offered to pay the hospital costs when first requested.

Indeed, a very different story than one most people know in this country.


http://www.democracynow.org/2011/1/25/do_you_know_the_full_story

[msanthrope]

42. Well, when you get skin grafts on your vagina, due to a product

sold at an unsafe temperature, with many previous injuries, call me.

[Bluebear]

46. Kindly see the documentary "Hot Coffee". No illegals being deported for your enjoyment, sorry...

but you may be entertained by who funded the effort to discredit the coffee burn victim.

http://hotcoffeethemovie.com/

[tabatha]

3. throwing a bone to the republicans

it is a tiny, tiny amount

[villager]

8. he seems determined to throw the entire skeleton...

n/t

[rpannier]

41. I'd take it a step further

Most fivilous lawsuits are filed by companies against other companies

[Dennis Donovan]

4. Yep - raw meat for the stupid...

x(

[lumberjack_jeff]

6. Bingo!

Oh wait, I'm using a SOTU bullshit bingo card left over from 2006.

[lumberjack_jeff]

15. "Competitive" "earmarks" "Faith".

I'm well on my way to filling up my second GWB bullshit bingo card.

Come on "evildoers"!

[catabryna]

9. Ohhhhh...

don't get me started! Craptastical bs! :argh:

[Thrill]

10. You have to give the idiots something

.

[TheKentuckian]

19. A healthy dose of reality but hell if that will ever happen.

Maybe some of the idiots would get a little wisdom if we strongly and steadfastly made sure they knew they were wrong instead of foolishly validating a bunch bullshit and outright lies.

[QC]

12. Are there any remaining right wing talking points he has not validated?

I can't think of any right off hand.

[sasha031]

18. I know....

[Nye Bevan]

22. So now liberals are not allowed to believe that there are ever frivolous lawsuits?

How about the lady who fell into a fountain while texting, then sued the mall?

[Luminous Animal]

26. How would you legislate against that woman hiring a lawyer and filing a lawsuit?

By the way, a lawsuit was never filed and now she has dropped even pursuing one.

[jberryhill]

33. Plus, it's all state law anyway

The notion that the federal government is going to reform the state court systems somehow is just silly

[Goblinmonger]

44. She sued the mall?

Already? What's the citation for the lawsuit she filed so I can look it up and see what they claimed? Or do you mean that she hired a lawyer? And a court hasn't had a chance yet to rule on the very likely summary judgment motion?

Jesus fucking christ I would like to see people on DU not throw out RW talking points on "tort reform."

[EC]

13. No use fighting this one

the repub governors are already doing it state by state. Let them feel they've won one. We already lost this one.

[sixmile]

20. The chamber full of LAWYERS WHO HATE LAWYERS

That's Congress.

[undeterred]

21. The idea that lawsuits are the cause of the high price of medical care

is a Republican lie. The cost of lawsuits is about .1% of medical care and reforming it would not make a dent in the huge problem of the cost of care. They just don't want medical consumers to have any rights.

[catabryna]

24. Ding, ding, ding....

:fistbump:

[Poboy]

34. undeterred has it correct.

[truth2power]

47. Thank you. n/t

[eyeofnewt]

28. First do no harm

He sold out - to doctors, the AMA, repugs

[gratuitous]

32. Unbefuckinglievable

And the worst thing? Obama knows a hell of a lot better than that. What a load of horseshit.

[Fire1]

35. Who decides what's frivolous? n/t

[gratuitous]

36. Apparently people on the internets, just by looking at corporate propaganda

Gosh, if only multinational corporations like McDonald's could afford to hire good attorneys!

[rpannier]

43. Allow me

It has been a fairly common practice through (1994) in California for a group of lawyers in the San Diego area to wait for a companies stock to drop by more than 1.5% in one day and then start a class-action lawsuit against the company or business.
This practice is considered frivilous in many states
I worked with a group that tried to pass a proposition to end that practice in 1994.

on edit: I mentioned 1994 because that's when I moved away from California. So I don't know what the law is now

[rpannier]

40. Most frivilous lawsuits filed are related to corporate vs corporate

[Safetykitten]

45. Like a bone to a dog.

[rgbecker]

50. Perfectly put.